FaninMex Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, stawns said: I've never cheered for a loss in almost 50 years of being a Canucks fan But whenever someone posts something positive and offering a small chance, you quickly respond that it is a lost cause. So.... cheering for a loss or given up hope and looking to have company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Last 12 games: Petey - 10 points Miller - 10 points McDavid - 8 points Just sayin... Isn't it high time Broken McNugget has fully earned the Reggie Jackson moniker?! Fuhgettaboutit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Isn't it high time Broken McNugget has fully earned the Reggie Jackson moniker?! Fuhgettaboutit! McJesus isn't even the top player in the league anymore. Forget the Gretzky comparisons. At 24 Gretzky was miles ahead of anyone else. I don't even think McDavid is as good as Crosby was at 24. Crosby was a complete player, McDavid can only score and he can't even do that right now. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, FaninMex said: But whenever someone posts something positive and offering a small chance, you quickly respond that it is a lost cause. So.... cheering for a loss or given up hope and looking to have company it is pretty much a lost cause. Being realistic doesn't mean you're cheering for a loss. I'm quite enjoying their games since BB took over, this is how I knew this lineup could play. I've always been optimistic about this team and a cheerleader and being realistic about their chance atthe playoffs doesn't cancel that out. There's simply too many things that have to go right for them and wrong for all the other teams for it to be a realistic chance. If they do, I'll be happy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 points out of 3rd in the division, have to climb over 4 teams to get there; 3 of those teams have games in hand. 7 points out of the 2nd wildcard spot, have to climb over 4 teams to get there, 4 of those teams have games in hand. 34 games left in the Canuck season. Canucks have settled to a .500 pace; it will not be enough. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, gurn said: 8 points out of 3rd in the division, have to climb over 4 teams to get there; 3 of those teams have games in hand. 7 points out of the 2nd wildcard spot, have to climb over 4 teams to get there, 4 of those teams have games in hand. 34 games left in the Canuck season. Canucks have settled to a .500 pace; it will not be enough. 7 points out of third in the division. If you’re gonna be a pessimistic at least get your facts right! Win on Saturday with a favourable out of town scoreboard, and they would be 5 points out of third with the same games played as Anaheim. I don’t know about you but there’s still plenty of hope to keep me going. Get on a roll over the next couple weeks and things will look very different 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, DeNiro said: 7 points out of third in the division 7 points to tie, 8 to take the place, unless the Canucks have the tie break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 That they're still part of the conversation is a feather in their cap. The well has been poisoned twice: Travesty Green's idiocy, & the league antics, as they were decimated(at every KEY position!) with the Covidian-blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: McJesus isn't even the top player in the league anymore. Forget the Gretzky comparisons. At 24 Gretzky was miles ahead of anyone else. I don't even think McDavid is as good as Crosby was at 24. Crosby was a complete player, McDavid can only score and he can't even do that right now. I got flamed for putting McDavid into the same catagory as Stastny and Hawerchuk in the 80's this summer., who really without Gretzky and Mario were the cream of the crop in the 80's decade (and Yzerman) .... personally feel Crosby is also a level above. He's like Yzerman ... Even Sakic was a better all around player. McDavid for sure is dangerous, but his D game is lacking. Actually Stastny was better too. Just the best offensive guy we have right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 5 hours ago, gurn said: The team would often start poorly under Green The team often starts poorly under B.B. Maybe the team is the problem and not the coach? Something was wrong, and it still remains wrong. Is it fitness? A lack of a certain type of player/attitude? Too small? Play too small? Too many players waiting to see how others will play before deciding to get in the game? something was and something is, still wrong. The coaching staff were an issue, Green and Baumgartner certainly needed to go. But they weren't the only issues, some of how this season has gone is squarely on the backs of the players as well. I like Boudreau, I think he's had us playing better more often than Green did, but it's still the same group of players Green had. I'm not sure what the right mix is, but this team has holes and it's certainly no contender. We'll probably see changes soon, because I certainly don't see us running the table and making the playoffs. Doesn't matter how much of the season is left, I don't see management giving them a chance to run things down to the wire. I don't imagine they'll get the rest of the season to figure out whether they get in or not. 4 hours ago, igorwasgreat said: I agree , if BB could bring out the “angry” in Bo , he could be a force on the ice. I just never see him setting the tone physically. He has all the qualities of great captain except for a mean streak. The "angry" bit is overstated. There are plenty of captains of teams around the league who don't play "angry". I understand wanting him to play more physically, but that's a team issue as a whole, not just a Horvat problem. I'll never understand this fetish some folks have for the stereotypical big surly captain with a mean streak. That's a cliché of hockey eras past, the game has changed and you simply don't see too many of those players anymore. 30 minutes ago, gurn said: 8 points out of 3rd in the division, have to climb over 4 teams to get there; 3 of those teams have games in hand. 7 points out of the 2nd wildcard spot, have to climb over 4 teams to get there, 4 of those teams have games in hand. 34 games left in the Canuck season. Canucks have settled to a .500 pace; it will not be enough. It's not impossible, but I don't view it as realistic. Particularly because I think a decision will be made before we get closer to the deadline, I don't see this team getting the rest of the season to figure things out. I figure we see changes before the deadline. That's how it's been the last few years, the big deals haven't really happened on the deadline itself so much as the weeks leading up to it. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philtbc829 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Coconuts said: The coaching staff were an issue, Green and Baumgartner certainly needed to go. But they weren't the only issues, some of how this season has gone is squarely on the backs of the players as well. I like Boudreau, I think he's had us playing better more often than Green did, but it's still the same group of players Green had. I'm not sure what the right mix is, but this team has holes and it's certainly no contender. We'll probably see changes soon, because I certainly don't see us running the table and making the playoffs. Doesn't matter how much of the season is left, I don't see management giving them a chance to run things down to the wire. I don't imagine they'll get the rest of the season to figure out whether they get in or not. The "angry" bit is overstated. There are plenty of captains of teams around the league who don't play "angry". I understand wanting him to play more physically, but that's a team issue as a whole, not just a Horvat problem. I'll never understand this fetish some folks have for the stereotypical big surly captain with a mean streak. That's a cliché of hockey eras past, the game has changed and you simply don't see too many of those players anymore. It's not impossible, but I don't view it as realistic. Particularly because I think a decision will be made before we get closer to the deadline, I don't see this team getting the rest of the season to figure things out. I figure we see changes before the deadline. That's how it's been the last few years, the big deals haven't really happened on the deadline itself so much as the weeks leading up to it. Totally agree not realistic at all given our current talent pool and everything that has happened thus far.... Miller will be gone and perhaps Garland as well....Hogs has been disappointing, Podz....average....Petey needs to go a tear in these last 30 games to justify his salary....etc etc....just not in the cards for them this year 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, philtbc829 said: Totally agree not realistic at all given our current talent pool and everything that has happened thus far.... Miller will be gone and perhaps Garland as well....Hogs has been disappointing, Podz....average....Petey needs to go a tear in these last 30 games to justify his salary....etc etc....just not in the cards for them this year That's where I stand, I figure we'll see some significant surgery done on the roster and I'm okay with that. JR'S right, being a capped out team that isn't a consistent playoff team isn't a good thing to be. We haven't been good enough this year on a consistent basis. I figure Miller goes, maybe Boeser. Garland? I'd be a bit more surprised, but it's certainly possible. I'll watch the games, give credit where it's due and criticize things here and there, but I don't think this roster as currently structured is good enough. I do think we've got some good building blocks in Hughes, Pettersson, Demko, Horvat, OEL, and Podz though. But yeah, probably a few years out from being a consistent threat. I do think we could compete for a playoff spot as early as next season depending on what moves are made though. A surefire playoff team? Nah, but certainly in the mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, stawns said: then you actually missed a very entertaining, well played last 40 mins from them Yeah, its great that BB got them to turn it on in the final 40 but frankly I'm tired of team not showing up for a full 60 because that was pretty much an ongoing theme under TG. Also who knows whether our guys picked up their play and took it to them or NYI let up because they were up by so many goals. All I know is, i woke up today and wasnt too broken up that i missed a much better effort in the final 40 min. I personally like BB so hopefully our guys continue to play hard under him because they have played hard for him since hes been here. If they don't, I'm good with shipping some guys out. To come out flat in our own building while trying to climb back into the playoff race is inexcusable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: McJesus isn't even the top player in the league anymore. Forget the Gretzky comparisons. At 24 Gretzky was miles ahead of anyone else. I don't even think McDavid is as good as Crosby was at 24. Crosby was a complete player, McDavid can only score and he can't even do that right now. 100% agreed! Also, I’m pretty sure McDavid is just going through the motions and isn’t even playing 100%. Don’t think he cares anymore. This boy needs to demand a trade! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: McJesus isn't even the top player in the league anymore. Forget the Gretzky comparisons. At 24 Gretzky was miles ahead of anyone else. I don't even think McDavid is as good as Crosby was at 24. Crosby was a complete player, McDavid can only score and he can't even do that right now. Yep. Crosby > McDavid at age 24. The way Crosby generates offence is also more proficient than McDavid, who is more of an off the rush player. The fact that Crosby had a cup in his resume by 23 also goes to support the claim that Crosby > McDavid. I don't think there is a player better than Crosby since Crosby came into the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, Coconuts said: That's where I stand, I figure we'll see some significant surgery done on the roster and I'm okay with that. JR'S right, being a capped out team that isn't a consistent playoff team isn't a good thing to be. We haven't been good enough this year on a consistent basis. I figure Miller goes, maybe Boeser. Garland? I'd be a bit more surprised, but it's certainly possible. I'll watch the games, give credit where it's due and criticize things here and there, but I don't think this roster as currently structured is good enough. I do think we've got some good building blocks in Hughes, Pettersson, Demko, Horvat, OEL, and Podz though. But yeah, probably a few years out from being a consistent threat. I do think we could compete for a playoff spot as early as next season depending on what moves are made though. A surefire playoff team? Nah, but certainly in the mix. Maybe we are not a surefire playoff team next season if we trade Miller. But imagine if it was Boudreau from the beginning and if we compiled a modest 13-12-2 record instead of 8-15-2. That's 10 more points, putting us at 58 points. That's a surefire playoff team. That's why I get the logic in wanting to re-sign Miller because with the current team + slight upgrade on defence would probably give us a surefire playoff team. Whether this team with small upgrade on defence projects as a cup contender, I'm not so sure and hence, why I also get the reasoning behind trading Miller to try and add a major RD piece as well as a forward/prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, khay said: Maybe we are not a surefire playoff team next season if we trade Miller. But imagine if it was Boudreau from the beginning and if we compiled a modest 13-12-2 record instead of 8-15-2. That's 10 more points, putting us at 58 points. That's a surefire playoff team. That's why I get the logic in wanting to re-sign Miller because with the current team + slight upgrade on defence would probably give us a surefire playoff team. Whether this team with small upgrade on defence projects as a cup contender, I'm not so sure and hence, why I also get the reasoning behind trading Miller to try and add a major RD piece as well as a forward/prospect. Miller or no Miller, I don't see us being a contender next season. Or even within the new 2-3 seasons, which is likely the remainder of his prime. In fact, it that'd align the tail end of his prime around when I figure we might be able to start making waves and I'd rather not have him signed at 8.5-9M at that point. I'd rather build for a longer window, building around Pettersson, Demko, Hughes, Podz, Horvat, and maybe Hoglander. OEL will still be here too, but we'll need a minimum of two top 4RD sooner than later to replace Myers and Hamonic. If we can free up some cap I don't see why a top 6 of some of Horvat, Petterrson, Garland, Podkolzin, Boeser, Pearson, Hoglander and whoever else we bring I couldn't do the trick. Contender? Nah, but playoff mix? Sure. Depends on how we address our bottom six and defense as well, there's a lot of adjustments to be made over the next few seasons. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 35 minutes ago, khay said: Maybe we are not a surefire playoff team next season if we trade Miller. But imagine if it was Boudreau from the beginning and if we compiled a modest 13-12-2 record instead of 8-15-2. That's 10 more points, putting us at 58 points. That's a surefire playoff team. That's why I get the logic in wanting to re-sign Miller because with the current team + slight upgrade on defence would probably give us a surefire playoff team. Whether this team with small upgrade on defence projects as a cup contender, I'm not so sure and hence, why I also get the reasoning behind trading Miller to try and add a major RD piece as well as a forward/prospect. With the trade of one player, miller, they would like get two players that slot immediately into roster slits and a draft pick that could be a roster player as soon as two years. And that's just for Miller.......throw Boeser into the mix and you could be looking at 5 very good players in roster spots in two years, and that's not considering tye cap space freed up to sign players as well. Two smart moves could change this franchise for a decade. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Okay first off this team is away better with Hughes playing then not . So Defense is the problem. Myers plays better on the second pairing OEL third pairing . So the Nucks need two D-men big mean that can skate and defend. Forward Brock Boeser could be traded for D help cant aford to pay what he wants or is slated to qualify for . Miller I would keep only if you couldn't get a kings ransom. Pettersson needs to step up fix his skating . He has to learn to play with emotion. Hoglander could be packaged and shipped as well for D help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Very bad starting. Halak lost his confidence. Our coach need help him, even allow one goal, dont loss the confidence. The team mates pushed very hard after Demko back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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