Coconuts Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, 4petesake said: I don’t mind the criticism but can’t get behind singling him out after what we saw all over the ice in that first period. That was just embarrassing all the way around. He came into the game with a .918 save % and a goals against of 2.40 and as for some saying he shouldn’t have been playing because of his bonus… Very few coaches would not play a guy to keep him from reaching a bonus and if he did he would have a pretty poor rep around the league. Players remember that kind of bs when they sign contracts. Yup, it doesn't look good when a goaltender gives up five goals but I only really fault him on the first one. Team in front of him was garbage, and played a large role in his getting lit up. Halak's been good for us this year, but for whatever reason we don't typically score much for backups. His record reflects that. And yeah, screwing a player over doesn't go unnoticed. I guarantee his agent would be speaking up publicly had they tried something like that. Players and agents do remember. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: I did say it how it was, I even broke down each goal. I've no issue calling a spade a spade, but I'll also go to bat for a player when I think he's being undeservedly dumped on. They are a team, and the group in front of Halak didn't support him well enough. Demko would have likely been lit up for a few goals in the first too, they were that bad. I’m going to have to disagree with you here. Halak is better than that. Regardless I think a game like this is good for management. It really shows that this team is overrated (especially defensively) without unbelievable goaltending from Demko. Same situation with Marky. I will be looking forward to seeing what JR does in the off-season. There is too much inconsistency with this team. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwipeout Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 So, came home from work and saw the "condensed game". From what i could see there was NOT much Halak could have done on the goals with all those bounces of skates and knees. And do i notice something good coming out of the line between Podz, Petey and Hoglander? seems like petey really is back and not just a couple of fluke points. the more confidence the better he will become and he will make his linemates better too. Other then that i know its always difficult to play the second of a back-to-back game so im not sure what conclusions u can make of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, J-23 said: I’m going to have to disagree with you here. Halak is better than that. Regardless I think a game like this is good for management. It really shows that this team is overrated (especially defensively) without unbelievable goaltending from Demko. Same situation with Marky. I will be looking forward to seeing what JR does in the off-season. There is too much inconsistency with this team. And that's fine, nobody always with everyone But yeah, seeing the ugly is just as important as seeing the good if management is to get an accurate read on where this team is at Evaluation time is almost over, if it isn't already, we'll probably see moves sooner than later This team, as constructed, isn't good enough and I'm glad JR sees that, here's hoping Al does too Edited February 10, 2022 by Coconuts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: Like Keith did when he ended our season taking out Daniel? Spot on.... Lets no forget the dirtbag move he did on Daniel, and ruined our chances for a decent cup run. He deserves, all he gets... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Burroughs, Schenn, Hunt, Juulsen.... For all the slagging off of the team, lets get real here... If ever we had an less than stellar D-corps this is it... none of these guys are top 4 dmen, yet 2 off them playing as it, amd playing as well as they possibly can... Halak had a crap game... it happens. Honestly, what does folks expect? Miracles? They didn't start well, but with Demko in net, they would probably still be in the game after the first. Next..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Halak has had a few nights this year where he gives up a softy to start the game. Tonight he gave up way too many and that was the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, J-23 said: I’m going to have to disagree with you here. Halak is better than that. Regardless I think a game like this is good for management. It really shows that this team is overrated (especially defensively) without unbelievable goaltending from Demko. Same situation with Marky. I will be looking forward to seeing what JR does in the off-season. There is too much inconsistency with this team. Not really man, our team puts Demko in a good place to succeed by not allowing 2 on 1s, breakaways, and rebound opportunities (that's also down to the goalie). That's why you also saw Spencer Martin come in and do a good job. Our team defense is very good and allows for goalies to be above average. Demko is on another level though and that's why you see him with spectacular numbers. Halak just gave us no chance to win tonight and I'm surprised that we got to within 5-3. That was all on Halak tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: Not really man, our team puts Demko in a good place to succeed by not allowing 2 on 1s, breakaways, and rebound opportunities (that's also down to the goalie). That's why you also saw Spencer Martin come in and do a good job. Our team defense is very good and allows for goalies to be above average. Demko is on another level though and that's why you see him with spectacular numbers. Halak just gave us no chance to win tonight and I'm surprised that we got to within 5-3. That was all on Halak tonight. The only goal he could have stopped was the first. The other four the team shat the bed in front of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: The only goal he could have stopped was the first. The other four the team shat the bed in front of him. He let a puck go through the middle of the blue paint for an easy tap in. That reminded me of the goal that DiPietro gave up in his game. If you're a goalie that's playing well, there's no way you let a pass go right through your crease, in front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, eeeeergh said: Tanev was the 1 guy we should never have let walk. Theres nobody else anywhere near as good as a shutdown guy that we can get. But Benning ran out of time trying to chase OEL and his huge 7 year contract After the 2020 playoffs, I think he started to listen to Weisbrod more which was not smart of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Tanev and Markstrom should have been traded for picks if they couldn't be signed. These were two of Bennings biggest screw-ups. Personally I think Tanev trumps Poolman anyday... no question Poolman is cheaper, but better to keep Tanev and pass on some other signings. Tanev would have signed and Toffoli would have signed too amd both for very reasonable 4 million per year deals, but they were disrespected since Benning never even made an offer and they just signed with another team. Another one of those Benning blunders. The fact that you even compare poolman to Tanev shows how much Canucks under appreciated him as a player and always magnified his injuries. Now he has not even missed a game since signing in Calgary while Hamonic misses not only games but seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: We are tied with most games in the pacific with the other two teams tied for that holding divisional spots in Vegas/Ducks. Flames are likely on their way to take a divisional spot. 1 point back with 4-5 games in hand of divisional teams. They've been playing good lately and just destroyed the Knights. They have the potential to take 1st in the division. Oilers have a small safety net of games in hand to figure themselves out. They've lost the last 2 games but prior to that they were 5-0-1. We're gonna need another good winning streak if we want an opportunity at the playoffs. but prior to that they were 0-8. Now with Keith out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, FaninMex said: but prior to that they were 0-8. Now with Keith out... They were dealt hard with Covid(and people getting back on track after COVID) and RNH was out for a while with injury. RNH is a much bigger loss than Keith IMO. I don't know how good they'll be moving forward but I doubt they do that again. Kris Russell could be back very soon and we don't know how long Keith will be out yet. Edited February 10, 2022 by Junkyard Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: Not really man, our team puts Demko in a good place to succeed by not allowing 2 on 1s, breakaways, and rebound opportunities (that's also down to the goalie). That's why you also saw Spencer Martin come in and do a good job. Our team defense is very good and allows for goalies to be above average. Demko is on another level though and that's why you see him with spectacular numbers. Halak just gave us no chance to win tonight and I'm surprised that we got to within 5-3. That was all on Halak tonight. Tracking technology shows otherwise. Before Boudreau took over they were 3rd best in goals against per game at 5v5 but near last in rush chances against. Spencer Martin had one of the most impressive goalie performance this season according to Sportlogiq's tracking technology. McDavid had 16 possession entries that game - most by a player in any game that season. Not really the sign of being solid in front of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, mll said: Tracking technology shows otherwise. Before Boudreau took over they were 3rd best in goals against per game at 5v5 but near last in rush chances against. Spencer Martin had one of the most impressive goalie performance this season according to Sportlogiq's tracking technology. McDavid had 16 possession entries that game - most by a player in any game that season. Not really the sign of being solid in front of him. I wonder how much Hughes helps in regards of limiting rush opportunities in comparison with the other D on the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, The King of Kings said: Just checked the Wikipedia... He's born in the U.S. He's raised in the U.S. He got his education in the U.S. He learned his hockey in the U.S. And I am not sure, but maybe his mom is from the U.S too. I believe he has a lot more reasons to represent the U.S. Bret Hull is the traitor in the mix.... The Hull seniors (uncle and Dad) have houses in the OTT area and have come to golf near where i live with guys like Larry Robinson and some of the hab dynasty guys (one who has a place on the course too) ... always bugged me that he didn't play for Team Canada given his roots. Finally he revealed why, and for that i guess it makes sense - but back then it sure made zero sense, one of the league best goal scorers ever (with respect to others, Brett Hull was the only guy i thought had a chance to eventually challenge Wayne, his Dad and Howes scoring records), Hart winner decides to play for team USA...all because of how he was treated by Canadians junior team staff. He actually wanted to play for Canada, was snubbed and once given the opportunity from the US "what kind of man would i be leaving to go to a better team, from a team that gave me a shot?" ... Hull for sure was a Canadian kid growing up more then a US one, but i can respect his decision. Back then it was evil though and didn't like it one bit. No way US wins in 96 without him, and instead on team Canada. Edit: Ironic how Canada also lost one of the greatest hockey players that ever lived in Bobby Hull wasn't in the Summit series because of his WHA contract (was left off the team ... that would be like Crosby or Ovi not being allowed to play when they were in their early 30's and still killing it ....) ... like father like son i suppose. Edited February 10, 2022 by IBatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DefCon1 said: Tanev would have signed and Toffoli would have signed too amd both for very reasonable 4 million per year deals, but they were disrespected since Benning never even made an offer and they just signed with another team. Another one of those Benning blunders. The fact that you even compare poolman to Tanev shows how much Canucks under appreciated him as a player and always magnified his injuries. Now he has not even missed a game since signing in Calgary while Hamonic misses not only games but seasons. Tanev did get an offer. We don't know all the details - but the players could have asked the team to match, they felt snubbed and with Markstrom and the ED/Bubble Demko, we all knew that he was on his way out. Toffoli played what 17 games with the team? What would his allegiances really be like? Took the first offer and left. This OEL thing for sure fell apart .... and cost a week that instead could have been spent on other things like Tanev. Schmidt should have been an upgrade on Tanev. But wasn't at all lol. Some of that damaged was repaired with OEL and Garland, i know we won't know how that ages for awhile, but OEL Myers us a legit top pairing, and it's absolutely sheltered Hughes or given Hughes a chance to shine. How's Chychrun doing this season anyways? Garland is a solid signing. Together probably off by 1-2 million, but we'd have had to pay at least that or more in free agency to fill those two spots .... so not really. Edler and Tanev obviously needed a succession plan, of the two JB managed Edler - and yes should have kept Tanev even with his injuries at that price (he offered the same money half the term by the way - Tanev didn't negotiate, went with Markstrom instead). Either way - nobody was crying in their milk over any of this during the bubble, 17 playoff type games, which they are listed as, is the fourth most in club history. Better then all but one Linden, one Sedin and one Smyl team managed. Horvats 10 goals was on pace to match Bure. And QHs did actually pass Brown as a rookie lol. There is some value in that as well. Obviously we'd rather have a return for Markstrom and Tanev. It's also why trading guys now before they get locked in on legacy deals is being discussed so often now. Markstrom and Tanev going to CAL was a kick in the nuts for sure. Edited February 10, 2022 by IBatch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Remember when a loss would mean 30 plus pages of whining and vitriol not that long ago? Kudos to the CDC for lightening up. Was hoping to finally chip away at games above .500....oh well. On to the next one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 They need to reunite the PPG line. Point per game line. When they get a point we never lose... Podkolzin Pettersson Garland This should be our #1 line moving forward. I prefer Garland on this line to Höglander as he has more speed and creativity. A perfect #1 line with a power forward, a #1 centre and a fast and creative winger who can open up space for the other two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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