Odd. Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 The patience I have left with these guys is like super thin. I rewatched the full Isles game and could not believe my eyes at Boeser abs Horvat. No urgency, super lackadaisical, no effort, no heart nothing. Coasting up and down the ice like idiots. Pearson besides that one pass to Miller in the dying seconds of the 2nd period was non existent. Myers for about the 5th or 6th straight game dating back to that OT dump in and throwing it down the middle with 10 secs left in the game has been pure garbage. Im not even going to bother with the cap these guys currently are holding, we know 3/4 of these guys aren’t worth their contracts, but seriously??? 3/4ths of those guys play in our freaking top 6. Leeching off Miller Garland Petey Hughes etc. If I had to be honest, I’d rather trade these guys first before Miller but that in of itself could be risky. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted February 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2022 You rewatched that first period? I know rooting for the Canucks is masochistic but that's next level. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Odd. said: Im not even going to bother with the cap these guys currently are holding, we know 3/4 of these guys aren’t worth their contracts, but seriously??? 3/4ths of those guys play in our freaking top 6. Leeching off Miller Garland Petey Hughes etc. If I had to be honest, I’d rather trade these guys first before Miller but that in of itself could be risky. So, if the players you mention aren't worth keeping, what makes them so desirable in a trade? You can't say, on the one hand, that they suck, and on the other, that they are worth picks, prospects and roster players. You didn't really think this through, did you? Edit: How much is 3/4th of 6? Answer: 4.5, so four and a half players of the top six aren't worth their contracts? Which player are you cutting in half? You didn't think that one through, either, did you? Edited February 11, 2022 by Curmudgeon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IBatch Posted February 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2022 How many passes infront of our own net has Miller made the last 3 years? I'm going to guess 3 plus a game so around 180 or so. Yes he comes to play every game will give him that. Naslund and Bertuzzi made Bure look like a defensive specialist (cherry pickers school 5.0)... Jovo made Myers look like Tanev 2.0 - talk about an adventure in his own zone! So not going to take the bait...but i guess i did and then just gave some perspective. Also the Sedins both would give RU Serious a chance to find different Bambi memes their first couple of years (until they learned to use their lumber - which they did). EP has been awful, actually dreadful many games this year 5 x 5 - just only recently finding his game - where as Brock Boeser was putting the team on his back last season and our best forward. So maybe let's just all take a deep breath - and see how this settles down. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post *Buzzsaw* Posted February 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2022 OP is mistaking one game for a season. Its a typical short attention span response. Overall Horvat and Myers are key elements of the team... no way we should look at trading them. Myers is one of our few physically dominant players who plays a lot of minutes and can contribute offensively most years. Horvat is also solid... last few games have not been his best, but he will bounce back. Boeser is a rare scoring talent who is having an off year... like many of the rest of the Canucks. Whether he should be considered for a trade is a valid question... if he could net a good defenseman in return, then maybe it would be worthwhile. On the other hand you have to balance that against the potential for him to return to his previous scoring pattern and also his undoubted chemistry with Miller. Pearson is a solid 3rd liner who is getting older but who still contributes and who might break out of his slump soon. Whether you look at trading him is also a valid question... but dumping him for nothing would be stupid. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, IBatch said: How many passes infront of our own net has Miller made the last 3 years? I'm going to guess 3 plus a game so around 180 or so. Yes he comes to play every game will give him that. Naslund and Bertuzzi made Bure look like a defensive specialist (cherry pickers school 5.0)... Jovo made Myers look like Tanev 2.0 - talk about an adventure in his own zone! So not going to take the bait...but i guess i did and then just gave some perspective. Also the Sedins both would give RU Serious a chance to find different Bambi memes their first couple of years (until they learned to use their lumber - which they did). EP has been awful, actually dreadful many games this year 5 x 5 - just only recently finding his game - where as Brock Boeser was putting the team on his back last season and our best forward. So maybe let's just all take a deep breath - and see how this settles down. I was with you right up until Brock putting the team on his back last year. Sure he had some points but he's never put anything on his back. Talk about cherry picking he personifies it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Should have gone streaking after all @Odd. maybe it would have helped you have closure. Or at least punched the NYI fan sitting behind you if I'm remembering the GDT correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 get out there and do it yourself then, champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: So, if the players you mention aren't worth keeping, what makes them so desirable in a trade? You can't say, on the one hand, that they suck, and on the other, that they are worth picks, prospects and roster players. You didn't really think this through, did you? Edit: How much is 3/4th of 6? Answer: 4.5, so four and a half players of the top six aren't worth their contracts? Which player are you cutting in half? You didn't think that one through, either, did you? Dude I’m talking about those 4. Why’d you come on here to tell me i didn’t think it through. I made my point Buddy those guys been absolute dog $&!#. Call it recency bias call it poor take but my point is these guys play bad most nights which they make up by having 1 or 2 good games followed by inconsistency. I don’t feel like typing right now I wish we had voice recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, tas said: get out there and do it yourself then, champ. Ok Mr. Aquilini Fan Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Odd. said: Dude I’m talking about those 4. Why’d you come on here to tell me i didn’t think it through. I made my point Buddy those guys been absolute dog $&!#. Call it recency bias call it poor take but my point is these guys play bad most nights which they make up by having 1 or 2 good games followed by inconsistency. I don’t feel like typing right now I wish we had voice recordings. But you're bad a fractions therefore.......... You must be wrong..... Don't hurt me. haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: OP is mistaking one game for a season. Its a typical short attention span response. Overall Horvat and Myers are key elements of the team... no way we should look at trading them. Myers is one of our few physically dominant players who plays a lot of minutes and can contribute offensively most years. Horvat is also solid... last few games have not been his best, but he will bounce back. Boeser is a rare scoring talent who is having an off year... like many of the rest of the Canucks. Whether he should be considered for a trade is a valid question... if he could net a good defenseman in return, then maybe it would be worthwhile. On the other hand you have to balance that against the potential for him to return to his previous scoring pattern and also his undoubted chemistry with Miller. Pearson is a solid 3rd liner who is getting older but who still contributes and who might break out of his slump soon. Whether you look at trading him is also a valid question... but dumping him for nothing would be stupid. The thing with Horvat is that I honestly believe if he had consistent linemates to play with other than Pearson, he could have a lot more to show. It’s just absolutely frustrating to watch Horvat however at times play uninspired. I’m hoping it’s just a down year for him, however, his play has dipped considerably. We have a lot of big decisions coming up, including both of our top centres UFA’s in 2 years. Our centre core unarguably is quite strong. Having Pearson play in the top 6 is limiting, and Boeser’s lack of speed at his age is also troubling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, IBatch said: How many passes infront of our own net has Miller made the last 3 years? I'm going to guess 3 plus a game so around 180 or so. Yes he comes to play every game will give him that. Naslund and Bertuzzi made Bure look like a defensive specialist (cherry pickers school 5.0)... Jovo made Myers look like Tanev 2.0 - talk about an adventure in his own zone! So not going to take the bait...but i guess i did and then just gave some perspective. Also the Sedins both would give RU Serious a chance to find different Bambi memes their first couple of years (until they learned to use their lumber - which they did). EP has been awful, actually dreadful many games this year 5 x 5 - just only recently finding his game - where as Brock Boeser was putting the team on his back last season and our best forward. So maybe let's just all take a deep breath - and see how this settles down. I am breathing. Don’t tell me to breathe! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Jetski Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) I do agree Horvat is the Anders Lee of the west. Horvat is a new parent and it’s been a crazy year- which may lead to some distractions off ice. But I agree with @Odd.on his post. Bo doesn’t really hit, bring much else besides face offs and a PPG now and then. 20 goals a year for the minutes he gets is a bit of a bust imo. Edited February 11, 2022 by Wayne Jetski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 If you contrast Garland's dynamic hustle, makes several of our fwds look rather pedestrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) If we're willing to be patient, I think it does make sense to build around Hughes, Pettersson, Demko and maybe even Garland. The rest, including the 4 here, are expendable. Three are or will be overpaid and the one that isn't should be worth quite a bit on the trade market (Horvat). If we're keeping someone it likely is Horvat given he's not too old yet and of course has the C. But if we're keeping him, we need to find that defensive 3C because he ain't it when it comes to matching up against top lines. Edited February 11, 2022 by kanucks25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Odd. said: The patience I have left with these guys is like super thin. I rewatched the full Isles game and could not believe my eyes at Boeser abs Horvat. No urgency, super lackadaisical, no effort, no heart nothing. Coasting up and down the ice like idiots. Pearson besides that one pass to Miller in the dying seconds of the 2nd period was non existent. Myers for about the 5th or 6th straight game dating back to that OT dump in and throwing it down the middle with 10 secs left in the game has been pure garbage. Im not even going to bother with the cap these guys currently are holding, we know 3/4 of these guys aren’t worth their contracts, but seriously??? 3/4ths of those guys play in our freaking top 6. Leeching off Miller Garland Petey Hughes etc. If I had to be honest, I’d rather trade these guys first before Miller but that in of itself could be risky. I can definitely understand the frustration, but I don't think you want to extrapolate that 1 period of the worst game we've played all year to make judgements about any of those 4. Pearson however has hands of absolute stone, offence dies on his stick. 2nd worst shooting percentage of forwards on the team, only ahead of Dickinson. Dump him on some team with haste. Myers has always been fairly bad defensively, he's had a lot of help from OEL this year who's been playing as a shutdown defenseman. This has made Myers look better this year, but unfortunately made OEL look worse. Boeser's been having a bit of an off year, but I'd say his and Horvat's value to the team is quite high when you look at what they've done for us over the past few years consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 This has to be the most clueless thread ive read in ages. Horvat and myers have been fine. I agree Boeser is a waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordekai Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 even with eye test myers hasn't been bad. But here is some proof for you: Myers / OEL top 17 in toughest minutes Myers is +9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNuCkSLoUiE23 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Horvat is a playoff performer. You don’t get rid of guys like that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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