Gurn Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, CaNuCkSLoUiE23 said: Horvat is a playoff performer. You don’t get rid of guys like that. No, shouldn't get rid of him; but I'm fine with trading him, for the right return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Mr. Green, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kloubek Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, gurn said: No, shouldn't get rid of him; but I'm fine with trading him, for the right return. I'm fine with trading anyone for the right return. Nobody is *truly* untouchable. I think we are heading in the right direction from the top down, and hopefully the management and coaches can properly assess where we need changes - from play on the ice through to personnel. When we came back against the Isles, the team showed how they could play - with passion and intensity. The skill level here is a lot better than some give us credit for, and with a lot of younger players, it will only get better. But the team needs to fire on all cylinders to be effective right now. We have some depth, but not yet particularly quality depth. For the most part, you can't play guys like Hunt, Chiasson, Dickinson, Dowling, Poolman, and now Juulsen in the lineup every night and expect to win close games. Ideally you don't have cap eaten up by guys like Pearson or Hamonic, who haven't shown much for a couple of years now. But our core guys gotta step up and play like core guys. If they had done so from the start of this season, we've be in a very different scenario. I'm glad Petey is getting it going again but he's still not there yet. We rely on Horvat to drive play and Boeser to finish - but neither are doing so regularly. I don't consider Myers a "core" guy, as his issue is and always has been consistency. And the only guy who has given it his all for years is Miller, and we're likely to be trading him away. 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Odd. said: Ok Mr. Aquilini Fan Boy not in the slightest. I'm not into vain, greasy slumlords. or billionaires in general. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Keep Bo. Trade the rest. Get rid of the craperolla. Bo is awesome. Brock is beautiful, but is he worth his coming contract? Myers we need, even though he’s overpaid a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Odd. said: The patience I have left with these guys is like super thin. I rewatched the full Isles game and could not believe my eyes at Boeser abs Horvat. No urgency, super lackadaisical, no effort, no heart nothing. Coasting up and down the ice like idiots. Pearson besides that one pass to Miller in the dying seconds of the 2nd period was non existent. Myers for about the 5th or 6th straight game dating back to that OT dump in and throwing it down the middle with 10 secs left in the game has been pure garbage. Im not even going to bother with the cap these guys currently are holding, we know 3/4 of these guys aren’t worth their contracts, but seriously??? 3/4ths of those guys play in our freaking top 6. Leeching off Miller Garland Petey Hughes etc. If I had to be honest, I’d rather trade these guys first before Miller but that in of itself could be risky. Good for you for starting a thread like this. It takes balls to call out favorite players. You should expect to get flamed though. That first period may have been the worst period the Canucks have played this season. Plus the bounces were going the wrong way. No excuses though. I give them credit for bouncing back in the 2nd. It has been a pretty crappy year. The players all must know that management is doing evaluations now. Changes are coming and nobody knows how deep they are going to be. Most of us are happy with the bare bones core (Demko, Hughes, Petey). I'd like to see Boeser, Horvat, Garland, Podkolzin, Hoglander and Schenn stick around but some of these guys may be moved. I am resigned to losing Miller and can see the logic of it. We may be taking a step back in order to step forward. I can deal with that if I can see there is a viable plan moving forward. Now, if they only win 1 more game this year, let it be Saturday at 4:00 pm against the Leafs Go Canucks Go!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Curmudgeon said: So, if the players you mention aren't worth keeping, what makes them so desirable in a trade? You can't say, on the one hand, that they suck, and on the other, that they are worth picks, prospects and roster players. You didn't really think this through, did you? Edit: How much is 3/4th of 6? Answer: 4.5, so four and a half players of the top six aren't worth their contracts? Which player are you cutting in half? You didn't think that one through, either, did you? This is what I don't understand. They aren't working here, and underperforming. Yet we will get a kings ransom at the deadline. That's not how it works. GM's aren't that stupid. Yes some GM's would make dumb moves like Drouin for Sergachev. Unless the GM is stuck with a salary cap issue that a trade can resolve. But I don't see that here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 hours ago, hammertime said: I was with you right up until Brock putting the team on his back last year. Sure he had some points but he's never put anything on his back. Talk about cherry picking he personifies it. "was putting" and "put" are two different things. Markstrom "put" the team on his back during our bubble year .... There were many games last year that Brock Boeser was the best forward on the ice - does that sound better? It wasn't just about points either. Next year, i'm sure we can say the same thing about Miller. But this idea that he's the be all and end all of this team is silly too. We have other players capable of carrying the mail too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) this is the 400,000th thread posted in Canucks Talk. @Odd. @-Vintage Canuck- Edited February 12, 2022 by Roberts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, IBatch said: "was putting" and "put" are two different things. Markstrom "put" the team on his back during our bubble year .... There were many games last year that Brock Boeser was the best forward on the ice - does that sound better? It wasn't just about points either. Next year, i'm sure we can say the same thing about Miller. But this idea that he's the be all and end all of this team is silly too. We have other players capable of carrying the mail too. I agree Garland's a guy who can carry his salt all be it not very much salt. Bo is definitely a guy who can too but he doesn't do it consistently. Brock would ask a guy who just ran Demko if he wants to hit up cactus club after the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Odd. said: The patience I have left with these guys is like super thin. I rewatched the full Isles game and could not believe my eyes at Boeser abs Horvat. No urgency, super lackadaisical, no effort, no heart nothing. Coasting up and down the ice like idiots. Pearson besides that one pass to Miller in the dying seconds of the 2nd period was non existent. Myers for about the 5th or 6th straight game dating back to that OT dump in and throwing it down the middle with 10 secs left in the game has been pure garbage. Im not even going to bother with the cap these guys currently are holding, we know 3/4 of these guys aren’t worth their contracts, but seriously??? 3/4ths of those guys play in our freaking top 6. Leeching off Miller Garland Petey Hughes etc. If I had to be honest, I’d rather trade these guys first before Miller but that in of itself could be risky. Not even worth my time to rebut this ridiculous thread. Go watch another team then bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) All should be in the market, except Boeser due to his age. Edited February 12, 2022 by ShawnAntoski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, IBatch said: "was putting" and "put" are two different things. Markstrom "put" the team on his back during our bubble year .... There were many games last year that Brock Boeser was the best forward on the ice - does that sound better? It wasn't just about points either. Next year, i'm sure we can say the same thing about Miller. But this idea that he's the be all and end all of this team is silly too. We have other players capable of carrying the mail too. Haha brock putting team on his back?! Get a grip man. The guy can barely skate with the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, GB5 said: Not even worth my time to rebut this ridiculous thread. Go watch another team then bud. You’ve got nothing to rebut dip$&!#. There’s a reason our record is what it is. You can’t sit there and tell me Horvat’s uninspired hockey and Boeser’s floating has/is helping this team in anyway at all. I’m not calling them bad players. This thread is about how my patience with them at the moment is quite literally thin because of their inconsistencies that’s been apparent for over a year now. Tell me to go watch another team while I sit there for 3+ hours watching how all the guys were paying top money for are just mailing it in and seeming like they don’t give a rats ass about winning. Meanwhile you got guys like Motte/Lammikko/Highmore/Hogs/Podz/Garland putting work out there every shift hungrier than ever doing what they can to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I actually think Myers is having his best year as a Canuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 - Im ok with Myers too, maybe not at his price tag but i don't see him as an issue. - Horvat is in something like a down year i suppose, but still he s one of the few go-to-guy on this team. - Boeser on this other hand... without his deadly release from his firsts years which was his only asset, has nothing to offer. (redirecting a puck or two into the net doesn't make you a player.) I'm ok with exploring trades for him. note that i would be patient with him if he was not in contract year with the awful 7.5M in line. -Now Pearson. easy : get ride of him as soon as you can, but not as soon as... - ... Dickinson. waive him and put him out of the global equation. - Poolman : meh, i take Burroughs over him. find a danse partner for him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Odd. said: You’ve got nothing to rebut dip$&!#. We'll talk once you're through puberty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 So if the Canucks waived Myers would another team pick him up? Also I don't get how that works with the cap? For example, if the Oilers waived McDavid would the Canucks pick him up? No? They don't have the cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: So if the Canucks waived Myers would another team pick him up? Also I don't get how that works with the cap? For example, if the Oilers waived McDavid would the Canucks pick him up? No? They don't have the cap space? I believe the team making the claim would take on the prorated cap hit, like acquiring a player in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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