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[Trade] Canadiens trade Tyler Toffoli to Flames for Tyler Pitlick, Emil Heineman, 2022 1st-round pick, 2024 5th-round pick


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  • -Vintage Canuck- changed the title to [Trade] Canadiens trade Tyler Toffoli to Flames for Tyler Pitlick, Emil Heineman, 1st-round pick, 5th-round pick
3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

That's HUGE!  

 

1st, 5th, prospect AND player for a guy who vanished in the playoffs for MTL and for long stretches at times in the regular season.

 

If teams aren't asking twice that Miller isn't wearing their jersey

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2 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Whatever the deal is it's not gonna be cheap for the Flames because this is one of the first big names in the show to be dealt.  

 

New GM in Montreal will not want to start their tenure from a position of mediocrity.

 

1st + let's go !!!

There it is!  1st ++ !

 

What's the scoop on Heineman?

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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

That's HUGE!  

 

1st, 5th, prospect AND player for a rental guy who vanished in the playoffs for MTL and for long stretches at times in the regular season.

 

If teams aren't asking twice that Miller isn't wearing their jersey

I don't think Toffoli is a rental.  He has a couple years left on his deal.

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  • -Vintage Canuck- changed the title to [Trade] Canadiens trade Tyler Toffoli to Flames for Tyler Pitlick, Emil Heineman, 2022 1st-round pick, 2024 5th-round pick
6 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

That's HUGE!  

 

1st, 5th, prospect AND player for a rental guy who vanished in the playoffs for MTL and for long stretches at times in the regular season.

 

If teams aren't asking twice that Miller isn't wearing their jersey

He was dealing with a groin injury during the playoffs.  Benning praised Toffoli's playoff performance in the bubble - was playing then with an ankle injury.

 

He has another 2 seasons at 4.25M after this season.

 

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So breaking this down...

 

Heineman (B-level prospect)

Pitlick (4th liner at best)

1st round pick (probably between 20th and 25th OA)

5th

 

Toffoli is on a good cap hit, and still produces at a decent rate, and is not a rental, so that sets a baseline for a guy like Miller.

 

Given that package, I could now see a package like this for Miller:

 

1. A-level prospect

2. 3rd liner / lower tier top 4D

3. 1st

4. 4th/5th ... some filler asset

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2 minutes ago, 70seven said:

Miller value moving on up

Toffoli has an additional year remaining on his current deal so that probably adds value to his situation.  The greatest value of the return to MTL is in the prospect and picks.  Pitlick is an OK depth player and really just provides a warm body for MTL to have on their roster for the remainder of the season.

 

Overall I agree with you though:  Toffoli is about 1-year older than Miller, has generally been less productive than Miller, and is a much better winger than C (as compared to Miller) so even with one less year of term, this deal would seem to set the floor for a Miller deal at a rather high mark.

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Just now, HKSR said:

So breaking this down...

 

Heineman (B-level prospect)

Pitlick (4th liner at best)

1st round pick (probably between 20th and 25th OA)

5th

 

Toffoli is on a good cap hit, and still produces at a decent rate, and is not a rental, so that sets a baseline for a guy like Miller.

 

Given that package, I could now see a package like this for Miller:

 

1. A-level prospect

2. 3rd liner / lower tier top 4D

3. 1st

4. 4th/5th ... some filler asset

If you think toffoli and Miller are on the same level you might want to start watching curling.

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