Alflives Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: No, his account is now activated but his last post shows 1/8/21. I find it interesting some people get so upset that Trump has a voice on Twitter again. Just don’t listen. Simple. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4petesake Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: I find it interesting some people get so upset that Trump has a voice on Twitter again. Just don’t listen. Simple. It’s not a matter of whether or not you or I listen to him. It’s his Magaminions that listen. Twitter has rules of use and he was banned for further incitement of violence during the storming of the Capitol after continuing to tweet that his defeat was caused by widespread voter fraud and urging his followers to march on Washington on Jan 6. His account was temporarily suspended after the deadly siege and he was permanently banned after further violations, 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Alflives said: I find it interesting some people get so upset that Trump has a voice on Twitter again. Just don’t listen. Simple. AOC responds to Elon Musk's poll to reinstate Trump's Twitter, saying the 'last time he was here this platform was used to incite an insurrection' https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-responds-musks-poll-reinstate-trumps-twitter-citing-insurrection-2022-11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 And now Musk has actually reinstated a domestic terrorist and given him a platform. How in holy hell are people still defending this worthless parasite? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, King Heffy said: And now Musk has actually reinstated a domestic terrorist and given him a platform. How in holy hell are people still defending this worthless parasite? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, 24K PureCool said: So where are the posters that said Elon won't re-instate Trump. I want a picture of the crow you are going to eat. Who actually thought he wouldn't? Of course Musk would. He's such a fire fire he'd bring crowds to twitter just to watch him burn or own the libs. Musk has done so much damage he needs the attention and draw to the platform like never before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Who actually thought he wouldn't? Of course Musk would. He's such a fire fire he'd bring crowds to twitter just to watch him burn or own the libs. Musk has done so much damage he needs the attention and draw to the platform like never before Apparently some of our fellow CDC brothers if you go back in the thread that are convinced Elong would not allow Trump back and called all of the others delusional and sensational. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 The other thing that is weird. Is all over Linked In, and news from companies, is the issue of life/work balance. Companies that attract good people are the ones that are allowing flexibility. Yet here is Musk saying Twitter employee's need to be "hardcore". So just because Musk doesn't have a life at times, everyone else has to be the same? I'm fine with hard work, and a job well done. But in the end of the day. Family, personal pursuits, and happy employees, are usually more effective employees. Just my 2 cents. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Boudrias said: When Musk started to but heads with the governor of California the negative press started to gain traction. There was an health issue in the Tesla factory in California where state officials told Musk to shut his plant down. Instead, Musk ignored them and kept operating. The state did nothing. The butting of heads continued and eventually Musk moved Tesla's HQ From Palo Alto to Austin along with 10,000 jobs. This reduced Tesla employment in Cali by half. Musk says the Giga Factory in Texas will cost $10 billion and employ 20,000 people. Tesla now employs over 100,000 worldwide. So California is mad at Musk. Since he left there has been a steady move of companies and investment out of Cali. Mostly to Texas, Florida and Atlanta. All GOP states I believe. So the government in Cali orders a shutdown of his plant because of a Covid outbreak and he declines. What’s your point? Since Elon’s the world’s wealthiest man he gets to set his own regulations? Should we enforce only the labour and safety standards he agrees with? Set his own minimum wage or he moves out of state? He also has a Gigafactory in China and is building a second. I don’t suppose he’ll get to operate there under his own set of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, 4petesake said: So the government in Cali orders a shutdown of his plant because of a Covid outbreak and he declines. What’s your point? Since Elon’s the world’s wealthiest man he gets to set his own regulations? Should we enforce only the labour and safety standards he agrees with? Set his own minimum wage or he moves out of state? He also has a Gigafactory in China and is building a second. I don’t suppose he’ll get to operate there under his own set of rules. My point was whether this was the start of the split with Cali or not? He did keep running the factory and the state did not force the issue by shutting him down. Don't know the detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Boudrias said: My point was whether this was the start of the split with Cali or not? He did keep running the factory and the state did not force the issue by shutting him down. Don't know the detail. Oh sorry, I agree that was probably the start of the split. It was definitely when he started to come up on the radar for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, Boudrias said: My point was whether this was the start of the split with Cali or not? He did keep running the factory and the state did not force the issue by shutting him down. Don't know the detail. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it looked to me less a case of Musk "butting heads" with Newsome and more a case of Texas being a far more tax friendly place to operate. Apparently, being the richest man in the world wasn't enough. This was underscored when he trashed Bernie Sanders for suggesting that perhaps mega-rich corporations like Tesla and Amazon should pay taxes commensurate with profits.... Moving to Texas was all about the money.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it looked to me less a case of Musk "butting heads" with Newsome and more a case of Texas being a far more tax friendly place to operate. Apparently, being the richest man in the world wasn't enough. This was underscored when he trashed Bernie Sanders for suggesting that perhaps mega-rich corporations like Tesla and Amazon should pay taxes commensurate with profits.... Moving to Texas was all about the money.... Not to mention majority of Tesla's operation is still in California. Moving HQ was all about the taxes when viewed that way. Elon is going to have/having a hard time convincing Tesla employees to relocate to Texas considering that workforce skews to the left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it looked to me less a case of Musk "butting heads" with Newsome and more a case of Texas being a far more tax friendly place to operate. Apparently, being the richest man in the world wasn't enough. This was underscored when he trashed Bernie Sanders for suggesting that perhaps mega-rich corporations like Tesla and Amazon should pay taxes commensurate with profits.... ... I wouldn't argue that money was not a big part of it. But the cost of money is usually a reflection of the environment you operate in. Cali is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Boudrias said: I wouldn't argue that money was not a big part of it. But the cost of money is usually a reflection of the environment you operate in. Cali is expensive. Absolutely. I think that's the point I was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I wouldn't argue that money was not a big part of it. But the cost of money is usually a reflection of the environment you operate in. Cali is expensive. As well as highly regulated which doesn’t sit well with a gajillionaire who wants more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, 4petesake said: As well as highly regulated which doesn’t sit well with a gajillionaire who wants more. Do you have a limit where enough is enough? Should Musk have stopped when he sold PayPal and retired? If you expand your rationale then won't you cap entrepreneurship which I think benefits most people? Is it Musk in particular that irks you or wealth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Do you have a limit where enough is enough? Should Musk have stopped when he sold PayPal and retired? If you expand your rationale then won't you cap entrepreneurship which I think benefits most people? Is it Musk in particular that irks you or wealth? I don’t. So long as they are taxed with no loopholes. A couple of caveats though off the top of my head ( lots more but this is a start) - Pay your workforce a living wage Don’t accept government handouts and then rail against them for others Repeal Citizens United so billionaires and PACs don’t control government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, 4petesake said: I don’t. So long as they are taxed with no loopholes. A couple of caveats though off the top of my head ( lots more but this is a start) - Pay your workforce a living wage Don’t accept government handouts and then rail against them for others Repeal Citizens United so billionaires and PACs don’t control government Sounds like big companies will pull up and move if they don’t get tax breaks. Musk did it. And it probably happens very often; we just don’t hear about it because it’s not big news. NFL teams do it too, right? Seems the bigger the company the more leverage they have over local governments to provide tax breaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, 24K PureCool said: Elon can't run for President. The guy ain't a natural US citizen. Probably courting the right thinking they would be in power and it has back fired on him fantastically, Maybe Musk wants to be a “Governator” like Arnold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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