Elias Pettersson Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 So, it was 1500 accounts causing all of the problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: So, it was 1500 accounts causing all of the problems... Sure it was Elon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Sure it was Elon My thoughts as well. No offense to EP or any of the other Elon supporters ITT, but at this point, I don't know why anyone would believe a thing he says....Could it be true? Absolutely. But after all that has gone on since this takeover, (and leading up to it) I regard Elon's tweets the same way I do any other right wing provocateur..... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 4:56 PM, -Vintage Canuck- said: Lol. Direct democracy baby. Bring on the entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: So, it was 1500 accounts causing all of the problems... Not surprised. I imagine a good chunk of that was from a 4chan campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: My thoughts as well. No offense to EP or any of the other Elon supporters ITT, but at this point, I don't know why anyone would believe a thing he says....Could it be true? Absolutely. But after all that has gone on since this takeover, (and leading up to it) I regard Elon's tweets the same way I do any other right wing provocateur..... Note that it is literally the smallest possibly sample size. That it doesn't take in to account anything else at all? What is designated a hate speech impression by his metric? All things that kind of need to be taken in to account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Note that it is literally the smallest possibly sample size. That it doesn't take in to account anything else at all? What is designated a hate speech impression by his metric? All things that kind of need to be taken in to account Someone a while back called him a "master manipulator" and I think that's what he's doing here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Listening to two historians talking about dictators. One of them said the longer they are a dictator the worse decisions they make and one reson is that they are micromanaging and that is a sign of desperation. Hitler and Putin micromanages a lot. I’ve seen too little of what Musk does but what I’ve seen regarding Twitter is that he likes to be in the center and tries to micromanage everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Timråfan said: Listening to two historians talking about dictators. One of them said the longer they are a dictator the worse decisions they make and one reson is that they are micromanaging and that is a sign of desperation. Hitler and Putin micromanages a lot. I’ve seen too little of what Musk does but what I’ve seen regarding Twitter is that he likes to be in the center and tries to micromanage everything. It helps if the people around the despot can manipulate them into correct decisions. At SpaceX and Tesla, there are people who can temper him somewhat. In part because he doesn't own those companies outright. At Twitter, they don't have that. The $8 debacle is one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Timråfan said: Listening to two historians talking about dictators. One of them said the longer they are a dictator the worse decisions they make and one reson is that they are micromanaging and that is a sign of desperation. Hitler and Putin micromanages a lot. I’ve seen too little of what Musk does but what I’ve seen regarding Twitter is that he likes to be in the center and tries to micromanage everything. It's one thing to not like Elon, but it's a huge stretch to compare him to those two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Master Mind said: It's one thing to not like Elon, but it's a huge stretch to compare him to those two. You’re not showing any Master Mind here. It’s no problem comparing. It would have been another thing if I said he was a mass murderer. Did I do such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Master Mind said: It's one thing to not like Elon, but it's a huge stretch to compare him to those two. Henry Ford is probably the best comparable. Some innovation but terrible to workers and ideologically aligned with those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Timråfan said: You’re not showing any Master Mind here. It’s no problem comparing. It would have been another thing if I said he was a mass murderer. Did I do such? You chose to compare him to those two for a reason. You don't need to outright say that for it to be a poor comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Timråfan said: Listening to two historians talking about dictators. One of them said the longer they are a dictator the worse decisions they make and one reson is that they are micromanaging and that is a sign of desperation. Hitler and Putin micromanages a lot. I’ve seen too little of what Musk does but what I’ve seen regarding Twitter is that he likes to be in the center and tries to micromanage everything. Same deal with the Vietnam war. The White House had freakin sand tables and maps and were planning strategy alienating a lot of the generals and the men on the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, Master Mind said: It's one thing to not like Elon, but it's a huge stretch to compare him to those two. Not really. It was the micromanaging that was the point. Not the named dictators. That said Twiiter is no longer a public company and Musk himself has said his say is end all be all. it works if you ignore the mass murder which wasn't mentioned or the point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Not really. It was the micromanaging that was the point. Not the named dictators. That said Twiiter is no longer a public company and Musk himself has said his say is end all be all. it works if you ignore the mass murder which wasn't mentioned or the point. If you want to make a comparison about micromanaging, you should probably pick someone known for micromanaging. Not people known for mass murder. Alternatively you could just point out the micromanagement. No need to bring those two into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Master Mind said: If you want to make a comparison about micromanaging, you should probably pick someone known for micromanaging. Not people known for mass murder. Alternatively you could just point out the micromanagement. No need to bring those two into it. Those are probably the 2 best known micromanagers to a broad audience. People can be known for more than one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Master Mind said: If you want to make a comparison about micromanaging, you should probably pick someone known for micromanaging. Not people known for mass murder. Alternatively you could just point out the micromanagement. No need to bring those two into it. Why not? If an historian points out that they micromanaged and do it more when desperate they are a perfect example of it. An anonymous teacher in a classroom isn’t good enough. If I explain one step more it was regarding warfare and what Musk is doing is very much like a corporate warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Those are probably the 2 best known micromanagers to a broad audience. People can be known for more than one thing. 1 minute ago, Timråfan said: Why not? If an historian points out that they micromanaged and do it more when desperate they are a perfect example of it. An anonymous teacher in a classroom isn’t good enough. If I explain one step more it was regarding warfare and what Musk is doing is very much like a corporate warfare. What's being micromanaged in each scenario is so very different that it's not a good comparison. Too many people are eager to compare people to Hitler/Nazi's it becomes ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Master Mind said: What's being micromanaged in each scenario is so very different that it's not a good comparison. Too many people are eager to compare people to Hitler/Nazi's it becomes ridiculous. Literally his first sentence referred to historians talking about dictators and micromanaging . He didn’t mention Nazis at all. Surely Musk’s management style is dictatorial - it’s not like he’s managing Twitter by committee after all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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