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4 minutes ago, JM_ said:

I know this isn't what a lot of people wanted to hear, but I'm glad this isn't looking like the 'step back to go forward' plan. So we'll see how it all shakes out but I liked what I heard. 

 

Only thing that surprised me was not offering Bruce a 2 year extension, just going with the one and that he has until July 1 to make his decision. 

Actually, he has until June 1st to make the decision.

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1 minute ago, Muttley said:

Not the big blow it up at all it sounds like. I really think they're still going over things but this doesn't seem to be an overhaul.  Still very early on. Can't help thinking 

they'll try to move Myers if it can be done to somehow gain some cap.

I would think its some or all of Pearson, Dickie, Myers, Poolman (if at all possible) but they might be looking at hockey deals too and not just cap necessarily, but PA did mention free agency so you can't do that without some cap space. 

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2 minutes ago, Muttley said:

Not the big blow it up at all it sounds like. I really think they're still going over things but this doesn't seem to be an overhaul.  Still very early on. Can't help thinking 

they'll try to move Myers if it can be done to somehow gain some cap.

I think one of Miller, Myers, or Dickinson get moved, maybe two of them if possible. 

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So far I like the sounds of the direction. No need to tear it down. Keep building on the chemistry the core is developing. We are just going to have to get really creative especially with Miller and Horvat extensions coming. Yes I believe both will be signed 

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1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said:

Miller's going to be traded. Just a feeling after this presser. They hardly mentioned him with regards to the future. Hardly talked about him at all. Surprising, seeing as he amassed 99 points

I think PA also mentioned that individual stats were fun but the team was more important.

 

Something along the lines of "those guys with their numbers retired would trade their banners for a Stanley Cup banner"  (I forget the exact wording)

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30 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said:

Here's my quick summary of todays press, if I wrote anything wrong, please let me know and I will correct it.

 

- Hasn't changed their mind on what needs to be done since earlier in the season

- Team relies on goalie too much

- Still have work to do, adding the right couple of players can make us a playoff team

- Don't know if Martin will work out for sure, but having a league minimum backup helps with the cap a lot

- Martin was solid positionally, great at tracking

- Wants to build cap space while improving the team

- Likes the job Boudreau has done

- Structure of the team needs to improve, exits from defensive zone are one of the worst in the league

- Have defensemen that are capable of playing better with better structure

- Fixing the structure will make us a consistently better team

- There is work to be done, they saw improvement but need to get better in all areas

- Situation of adding and subtracting is more complicated here than they like, meetings here in the next week with departments to start making decisions

- Management wants Bruce back, want to work with him on a few things to help make him better

- Strong organizations don't have lame duck coaches, can bring him back for next year

- We have players that can get to a superstar level in the league - Petey, Hughes, Demko

- Believes there is more to come from Elias

- Crosby and Letang make players around them better, has those type of expectations for those superstar calibre players coming into next season

- Rogers Arena is getting renovations in many areas, some in Abbotsford as well

- Practice arena is getting closer to a site decision

- Francesco had no issues putting money into renovations

- Francesco has let the management do their job, JR speaks to Francesco about every two weeks while grabbing a bite together

- Too early to say on Sutter's future

- Willing to have Bruce under the contract he's on, no extension this year, not against a contract extension after next season

- As good of a job Bruce has done, it wasn't a full season

- Sullivan won the cup with JR in 16 and 17 and he didn't get an extension until needed

- Still evaluating staff, changes might happen

- Comfortable with Todd Harvey leading the amateur scouting for this upcoming draft

- Will reach out to Miller and Horvat's agents to talk about extensions

- Plan to have all signed and unsigned prospects at prospects camp

- Challenge scouts to find players in other leagues

- Young Stars tournament and prospects camp was a priority, existing organization members were all for it

- 2 other teams committed to Young Start Tournament, 1 team in consideration

- We have an older facility, locker room is outdated

- Having up to date facilities helps in recruiting

- Bruce has until June 1st to decide to come back

- Very impressed with Ryan Johnson, rely a lot on RJ, big part of management staff, moving forward will figure out the best position/role for him

- Abbotsford coaching staff have done a good job

- Abbotsford could be the best franchise in the AHL overtime, goal is to make it better and better

- Really liked Podkolzin over the last 4-5 weeks, looked like a full time NHL player, need to develop players to be able to play into May

- Positive talks with Brock and his agent

- Don't need to make major changes, but need to get better through trades and free agency

- Hopes we can find a way to get better long term without taking a step back next season

- Believes Dermott has upside, was able to get younger and shed salary

- Really happy the way the front office has come together and work together

- Cammi Granato keeps amateur scouting and pro scouting accountable

 

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- Doesn't think Demko needs a procedure, should be ready for training camp

Thanks for all that. Saved me a lot of time. Also saved me from falling asleep when Allvin talks.

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27 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said:

 

- Still have work to do, adding the right couple of players can make us a playoff team

 

They have to do some work, there will be some changes, I'm looking forward to it, but with a full season with Bruce they already are a playoff team!! 

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1 minute ago, Maniwaki Canuck said:

Bruce: there he goes?

Are they arranging it so that Bruce himself pulls the plug?

No!  They are creating a competitive environment.  Asking him to keep it up and continue to earn it if he wants to stay.  Kinda harsh considering his success but probably the kind of leadership that we want.

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2 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Miller's going to be traded. Just a feeling after this presser. They hardly mentioned him with regards to the future. Hardly talked about him at all. Surprising, seeing as he amassed 99 points. 

I get that feeling as well, he could get us the required defensive pieces needed and cap space at the same time. Podzokin and Hoglander would have to step up next year in his absence though.  

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2 minutes ago, Baratheon said:

No!  They are creating a competitive environment.  Asking him to keep it up and continue to earn it if he wants to stay.  Kinda harsh considering his success but probably the kind of leadership that we want.

I understand that but it is, as you say, kinda harsh and the guy has some pride and more importantly, options. 

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25 minutes ago, JM_ said:

I know this isn't what a lot of people wanted to hear, but I'm glad this isn't looking like the 'step back to go forward' plan. So we'll see how it all shakes out but I liked what I heard. 

 

Only thing that surprised me was not offering Bruce a 2 year extension, just going with the one and that he has until June 1 to make his decision. 

JR didn't extend Mike Sullivan after he won 2 cups, so it makes sense JR waits until after the season starts to evaluate him during the season the same way he handled Sullivan.  Boudreau didn't have the full year either so he needs to come to camp ready to go just like all the players.

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21 minutes ago, Muttley said:

Not the big blow it up at all it sounds like. I really think they're still going over things but this doesn't seem to be an overhaul.  Still very early on. Can't help thinking 

they'll try to move Myers if it can be done to somehow gain some cap.

OEL might be easier because he still has high PP value. 

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