IBatch Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Warhippy said: I am still an outlier for Quenneville no matter how much hate and heat this gets. He holds the two highest winning percentage seasons of any coach in NHL history is #2 on the list and has done nothing but build winners. I would like Trotz but would take the hate over coach Quenneville Quenville was also extremely lucky with the teams he coached. Sure he made them better and had a pretty good mustache game - but both him and Babcock (another coach who lucked out coaching two of three good teams and petered out as soon as one wasn't so good - exactly how i predicted he would) .... Bruce at least is a aware of that fact and even made jokes about "Bruce there he goes" if he didn't come in and get his usual bump. Trotz to me coached inferior teams and got better results then Quenville did. As soon as CHI sucked (which is Toews and Kane's contracts fault as much as anything) his record slid. I'm wasn't enamoured with CHI then (watched a lot better teams win a cup) and still aren't now. That's without the scandal. Don't want him. Bruce is fine - Trotz - he'd be fine too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, lmm said: and we wonder why we have never won a cup I still wonder ... Ronning ... Lafayette ... as soon as we drew the Bruins i was like oh Sh!t. Wish the 94 team played the 2011 Bruins. Edited May 9, 2022 by IBatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I think Bruce is the best fit for this market on and off the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, IBatch said: Trotz. Guys a freaking defensive tactician. I love Bruce and his big round head. But have to go with no neck all shoulders Trotz on this one. What he had to work with in NSH just wasn't enough and still did it (almost anyways - but did a way better job then the sum of their parts and made some really really good D's along the way)... What he managed in NYI was even more impressive. And of course he won a cup with a better lineup in WSH. Loyalty to Bruce is understandable though. Edit: BTW - Trotz came in the year Tavares was traded ... and took one of the worst defences in the entire league and made them one of the best ones. Something like a plus 50 plus differential change WITHOUT Tavares. Made Barzal a better player and really aside from him, they were nothing special. Whatever happened this year happens to all coaches eventually. Our D actually had more name presence now then theirs did back then. I'm a huge fan and pick Trotz. Nice thing too - that buy in means smaller cap hits because in that context it's usually just about points. Trotz. Maybe you've nailed it iBatch. Nothing else has worked for this team. Lets give Eugenics a shot at it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 hours ago, 250Integra said: What about "It's getting TROTZ in here (SO TROTZ!), so take off all your clothes..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Willie was a newbie NHL coach, who has since had a temporary head coaching job in LA and (in the past 3 yrs), has been a head coach in the WHA. Boudreau has boatloads of AHL and NHL coaching experience with a decent winning % throughout his career. I don't see the similarities. Man I hate it when I lose a half finished response that was the most eloquent prose ever typed so I'll try again Big stress under Torts Big stress under Green New coach relieved the Big Stress and had success now I am not comparing Coach B with Coach W, but I am comparing the situation that they walked into. and so, my question is: will Bruce be able, or better yet, is it fair to expect Bruce to coach this team at the same level, ( higher than he did the Ducks) next year and beyond Or, have we just experienced the Bruce Bubble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, lmm said: and so, my question is: will Bruce be able, or better yet, is it fair to expect Bruce to coach this team at the same level, ( higher than he did the Ducks) next year and beyond Or, have we just experienced the Bruce Bubble? Even if the team comes down to earth and takes a bit of a dip next year compared to where Bruce had them at this year - we're still most likely a playoff team. 57 games isn't an entire season of course, but it's enough of a sample size for JR/Allvin to have said they'll have him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 hours ago, c00kies said: I don't know if we're gonna want to implement an Age limit to go to Canucks games. All we need is a little Jeff Cowan (Brabarian) magic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, lmm said: Man I hate it when I lose a half finished response that was the most eloquent prose ever typed so I'll try again Big stress under Torts Big stress under Green New coach relieved the Big Stress and had success now I am not comparing Coach B with Coach W, but I am comparing the situation that they walked into. and so, my question is: will Bruce be able, or better yet, is it fair to expect Bruce to coach this team at the same level, ( higher than he did the Ducks) next year and beyond Or, have we just experienced the Bruce Bubble? Always go with Bruce. Unless you have another, younger, more Meme worthy option. In this case who's the badass cat? Not a Green cat at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, IBatch said: Always go with Bruce. Unless you have another, younger, more Meme worthy option. In this case who's the badass cat? Not a Green cat at least. oh wait, we have tried kittens before 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, kilgore said: Maybe you've nailed it iBatch. Nothing else has worked for this team. Lets give Eugenics a shot at it! Well maybe not. But i'd let a blind person coach this team if that's what it takes. Blind with big bulging eyeballs. This could be a tactic too. As long as nobody gets hurt that is. Trotz or Bruce / good call. I only voted for Trotz because what he did in NYI was special - and feel both are more then capable. Don't lose an eye. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, IBatch said: Well maybe not. But i'd let a blind person coach this team if that's what it takes. Blind with big bulging eyeballs. This could be a tactic too. As long as nobody gets hurt that is. Trotz or Bruce / good call. I only voted for Trotz because what he did in NYI was special - and feel both are more then capable. Don't lose an eye. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Bruce has earned his shot here. Trotz would be my top pick if Bruce decides not to re-up though Trotz should have his pick of any team looking for a new coach anyways, and with our blueline looking the way it does, I imagine we wouldn't be high up on his list even if we were looking for a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, spook007 said: U just saw a woman with 3 buttocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, lmm said: Man I hate it when I lose a half finished response that was the most eloquent prose ever typed so I'll try again Big stress under Torts Big stress under Green New coach relieved the Big Stress and had success now I am not comparing Coach B with Coach W, but I am comparing the situation that they walked into. and so, my question is: will Bruce be able, or better yet, is it fair to expect Bruce to coach this team at the same level, ( higher than he did the Ducks) next year and beyond Or, have we just experienced the Bruce Bubble? I think Bruce is the right person for the job right now. He is a good coach for a team that is developing into a playoff team and that happens to be where the team is right now. It looks to me that JR's plan is to bring in 'his guy' when the team becomes a playoff team (which will probably be after next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philtbc829 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 yeah happy with either but I would like to see BB for a full season more so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Stat/Charts from Wiki. Barry Trotz Record: Team Year Regular season Postseason G W L T OTL Pts Finish W L Win% Result NSH 1998–99 82 28 47 7 — 63 5th in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH 1999–00 82 28 40 7 7 70 5th in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH 2000–01 82 34 36 9 3 80 3rd in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH 2001–02 82 28 41 13 0 69 4th in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH 2002–03 82 27 35 13 7 74 4th in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH 2003–04 82 38 29 11 4 91 3rd in Central 2 4 .333 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (DET) NSH 2005–06 82 49 25 — 8 106 2nd in Central 1 4 .200 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (SJS) NSH 2006–07 82 51 23 — 8 110 2nd in Central 1 4 .200 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (SJS) NSH 2007–08 82 41 32 — 9 91 2nd in Central 2 4 .333 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (DET) NSH 2008–09 82 40 34 — 8 88 5th in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH 2009–10 82 47 29 — 6 100 3rd in Central 2 4 .333 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (CHI) NSH 2010–11 82 44 27 — 11 99 2nd in Central 6 6 .500 Lost in Conference Semifinals (VAN) NSH 2011–12 82 48 26 — 8 104 2nd in Central 5 5 .500 Lost in Conference Semifinals (PHX) NSH 2012–13 48 16 23 — 9 41 5th in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH 2013–14 82 38 32 — 12 88 6th in Central — — — Missed playoffs NSH total 1,196 557 479 60 100 19 31 .380 7 playoff appearances WSH 2014–15 82 45 26 — 11 101 2nd in Metropolitan 7 7 .500 Lost in Second Round (NYR) WSH 2015–16 82 56 18 — 8 120 1st in Metropolitan 6 6 .500 Lost in Second Round (PIT) WSH 2016–17 82 55 19 — 8 118 1st in Metropolitan 7 6 .538 Lost in Second Round (PIT) WSH 2017–18 82 49 26 — 7 105 1st in Metropolitan 16 8 .667 Won Stanley Cup (VGK) WSH total 328 205 89 — 34 36 27 .571 4 playoff appearances 1 Stanley Cup NYI 2018–19 82 48 27 — 7 103 2nd in Metropolitan 4 4 .500 Lost in Second Round (CAR) NYI 2019–20 68 35 23 — 10 80 5th in Metropolitan 13 9 .591 Lost in Conference Finals (TBL) NYI 2020–21 56 32 17 — 7 71 4th in East 11 8 .579 Lost in Stanley Cup Semifinals (TBL) NYI 2021–22 82 37 35 — 10 84 5th in Metropolitan — — — Missed playoffs NYI total 288 152 102 — 34 28 21 .571 3 playoff appearances Total 1,812 914 670 60 168 83 79 .512 14 playoff appearances 1 Stanley Cup Bruce Boudreau:: m Year Regular season Postseason G W L OTL Pts Division Rank W L Result WSH 2007–08 61 37 17 7 (81) 1st in Southeast 3 4 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (PHI) WSH 2008–09 82 50 24 8 108 1st in Southeast 7 7 Lost in Conference Semifinals (PIT) WSH 2009–10 82 54 15 13 121 1st in Southeast 3 4 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (MTL) WSH 2010–11 82 48 23 11 107 1st in Southeast 4 5 Lost in Conference Semifinals (TBL) WSH 2011–12 22 12 9 1 (25) (fired) — — — WSH total 329 201 88 40 17 20 ANA 2011–12 58 27 23 8 (62) 5th in Pacific — — Missed playoffs ANA 2012–13 48 30 12 6 66 1st in Pacific 3 4 Lost in Conference Quarterfinals (DET) ANA 2013–14 82 54 20 8 116 1st in Pacific 7 6 Lost in Second Round (LAK) ANA 2014–15 82 51 24 7 109 1st in Pacific 11 5 Lost in Conference Finals (CHI) ANA 2015–16 82 46 25 11 103 1st in Pacific 3 4 Lost in First Round (NSH) ANA total 352 208 104 40 24 19 MIN 2016–17 82 49 25 8 106 2nd in Central 1 4 Lost in First Round (STL) MIN 2017–18 82 45 26 11 101 3rd in Central 1 4 Lost in First Round (WPG) MIN 2018–19 82 37 36 9 83 7th in Central — — Missed playoffs MIN 2019–20 57 27 23 7 (61) (fired) — — — MIN total 303 158 110 35 2 8 VAN 2021–22 57 32 15 10 (74) 5th in Pacific — — — VAN total 57 32 15 10 — — Total 1,041 599 317 125 43 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Bruce all the way. Coaching is not currently an issue with this team.... the task ahead is for team management to provide better tools for the coach to work with. Some defenders that can actually gain possession in their own end and efficiently move the puck out is a start, one or two rugged forwards is another. Bruce did everything and then some with the personal he had to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) I picked Trotz but only based on an assumption that I could choose between either or with no ramifications whatsoever. I still hope Boudreau returns, but if I had a straight up choice between the 2 it would be Trotz. Just my personal opinion. Overall though, in my opinion this is a pick between 2 really solid coaches. I don't see either of them being a wrong choice. Edited May 10, 2022 by The Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 21 hours ago, lmm said: Man I hate it when I lose a half finished response that was the most eloquent prose ever typed so I'll try again Big stress under Torts Big stress under Green New coach relieved the Big Stress and had success now I am not comparing Coach B with Coach W, but I am comparing the situation that they walked into. and so, my question is: will Bruce be able, or better yet, is it fair to expect Bruce to coach this team at the same level, ( higher than he did the Ducks) next year and beyond Or, have we just experienced the Bruce Bubble? Just look at his record. Every season is a winning season, more wins than losses. https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/boudrbr01c.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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