Odjick29willkillyou Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) Hearing from my friends in Minny and via numerous media sources that Fiala will be very tough for Minny to re-sign. Also hearing that Guerin is not afraid to make big moves and after their early exit yesterday, is expected to make some this offseason. So here are my thoughts on their situation that could work for everyone involved both professionally and personally: - Trade BB6 straight up for Fiala. Both 25YO 1st rounders who can score goals, but struggle with consistency. Brock moves home to be closer to Duke and Fiala joins Petey on the wing. Fiala had 85 points to BB6s 46 this season, but they both could use a change of scenery and this was a contract year for Fiala (RFA Next season). We sign him to a 3-4/7mil deal (1.6mil higher than his current deal) and still save on BB6 QO. I think Guerin does this for numerous reasons to include bringing the hometown kid home. Until this season both had very similar numbers. - Trade BB6, Myers and 2nd for Fiala and Dumba. Both have kinda fallen out of favor with MN and have similar contracts, but Dumbs is a few years younger than Myers. Once again, a change of scenery for two players who might need it. Myers is who he is and would fit great on MN 3-4 pairing at the same money with one more year (2024). I am playing a tournament in Blaine, MN in a couple weeks and I hope to see Boes as he is close to the family who puts the event on. I will see if I can get some intel lol. Edited May 13, 2022 by Odjick29willkillyou I suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Guerin is on record that he won't be bringing in guys because they're local. See Suter and Parise for proof. Dumba is also far worse defensively than Myers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon.Duck Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Unfortunately...in a realistic scenario, we likely add a tiny bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Note: Tags are mandatory only in the Trades, Rumours, Signings forum and in the Proposals and Armchair GM'ing forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Oregon.Duck said: Unfortunately...in a realistic scenario, we likely add a tiny bit. Yeah I feel that way too. I would be willing to throw in a 2nd (2023) with Boes, but not our first unless we trade Millsy and get a higher 1st rounder. Guerin knows he is in a corner with Fiala and after his disappearing act this postseason, his stock is currently not so high. I can also see another team willing to overpay/bid for him which can be risky as he is really only a goal scorer and Boes can actually play a two-way game when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, -SN- said: Note: Tags are mandatory only in the Trades, Rumours, Signings forum and in the Proposals and Armchair GM'ing forum. Sorry for sucking lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUCKER67 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Ship has sailed. VAN would have to add, and MIN doesn't want to take on a big salary. I think Fiala could be going to NJ. Then they draft Slafkovsky. Oh boy, Devils are going to be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) Minnesota is in cap hell. They can't take on any contracts. Fiala was on the trade block as of season's start - Wild knew it would be his last season because they couldn't afford him regardless of how he played. They are going to need players on ELCs and league minimum. Next season they will have less than 70M to spend and it gets worse the 2 seasons after that. Edited May 13, 2022 by mll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, mll said: Minnesota is in cap hell. They can't take on any contracts. Fiala was on the trade block as of season's start - Wild knew it would be his last season because they couldn't afford him regardless of how he played. They are going to need players on ELCs and league minimum. Next season they will have less than 70M to spend and it gets worse the 2 seasons after that. Boy, those buyouts are going to hit them hard... hope management has the self-restraint not to buyout OEL unless he's really terrible, otherwise we'll have more dead cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mll Posted May 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Phil_314 said: Boy, those buyouts are going to hit them hard... hope management has the self-restraint not to buyout OEL unless he's really terrible, otherwise we'll have more dead cap. Drance/Dhaliwal just had an article up in the Athletic where they say that management think very highly of OEL and believe he can maintain that level of play well into his 30s. There's no intention to trade him or buy him out. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, mll said: Drance/Dhaliwal just had an article up in the Athletic where they say that management think very highly of OEL and believe he can maintain that level of play well into his 30s. There's no intention to trade him or buy him out. I feel like that is a fair assessment for him as a 3-4 dman the next couple years. I guess it just kills me seeing Eagle on the Kings earning way less money and providing a similar skillset/d pairing although a few years older. I like OEL and feel like he can be a good mentor to any future d prospects we draft or other players in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Odjick29willkillyou said: I feel like that is a fair assessment for him as a 3-4 dman the next couple years. I guess it just kills me seeing Eagle on the Kings earning way less money and providing a similar skillset/d pairing although a few years older. I like OEL and feel like he can be a good mentor to any future d prospects we draft or other players in general. No reason OEL can't age as gracefully as Edler did. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Zero interest in Fiala becoming a member of this organization. He strikes me as a punk who likes to instigate but will never back it up. Also, he seems like the kind of player who disappears in the PO when the going gets really tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Odjick29willkillyou said: I feel like that is a fair assessment for him as a 3-4 dman the next couple years. I guess it just kills me seeing Eagle on the Kings earning way less money and providing a similar skillset/d pairing although a few years older. I like OEL and feel like he can be a good mentor to any future d prospects we draft or other players in general. If it makes you feel better, OEL can do a lot more for us than Edler. Edler at 3m/year right now is a purely shutdown defenseman, and has none of his former footspeed. His puck moving skills also took a dive. OEL is a better skater, can still quarterback a powerplay and do it very well, and as we saw when Hughes went down - OEL can step into the role and put up a lot of points. We really aren't overpaying OEL by nearly as much as people think. We would really miss him if we lost him. In other news, I didn't realize Minny had those buyouts kicking in - they are in WAY worse cap situation than us for a long time. I think their best option is going to be trading top players for draft picks. I don't see how they can be competitive with 12m of dead cap. Edited May 13, 2022 by eeeeergh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, mll said: Drance/Dhaliwal just had an article up in the Athletic where they say that management think very highly of OEL and believe he can maintain that level of play well into his 30s. There's no intention to trade him or buy him out. I sure hope he can maintain this level, because it’s not very good right now and could look very ugly if he somehow gets worse. 29pts in 79 games is absolutely horrible value for his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I really do like Fiala, but unless there are some sort of other issues, he's worth more than Boeser and we would have to add on our end. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, -AJ- said: I really do like Fiala, but unless there are some sort of other issues, he's worth more than Boeser and we would have to add on our end. Minny can't afford to keep Fiala, so it's likely they would expect a pick and prospects for him. Boeser we will very likely re-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Minny can't afford to keep Fiala, so it's likely they would expect a pick and prospects for him. Boeser we will very likely re-sign. And that could be one consideration, but we are also tight on cap space, so if Fiala is going to cost $7M or something, we have to consider if we can pay for a player better than Boeser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, -AJ- said: And that could be one consideration, but we are also tight on cap space, so if Fiala is going to cost $7M or something, we have to consider if we can pay for a player better than Boeser. Agreed. We will not be interested in Fiala. He's not a winner anyway. Disappears in the hard moments. Rather keep Boeser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Agreed. We will not be interested in Fiala. He's not a winner anyway. Disappears in the hard moments. Rather keep Boeser. If we’re comparing Fiala to Boeser I’d think Boeser would disappear a bit more in the playoffs. Fiala plays faster and honestly probably even plays with a little more bite to his game then Boeser. Fiala can create a bit more where as I find Boeser is a nice complimentary winger but needs people to create for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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