aGENT Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Scottydzik said: Do they match 6 year 6.6 million offer sheet? Absolutely. That's not even a bad deal for Dobson lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: Do they match 6 year 6.6 million offer sheet? Leaving then 5 mil to fill out there team and upgrade scoring/barzal to sign next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I'd do Miller for Dobson 1 for 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, aGENT said: They also have Mayfield. And Dobson is an RFA. They need a LHD. And Mayfield is a UFA next summer. So they do need a couple top 4 guys. I think we should try and get Mayfield as Dobson and Pulock are their top 4 guys on the right side. Mayfield can partner with Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They need a LHD. And Mayfield is a UFA next summer. So they do need a couple top 4 guys. I think we should try and get Mayfield as Dobson and Pulock are their top 4 guys on the right side. Mayfield can partner with Hughes. Mayfield still comes cheap he’s cap friendly player they’d be smart keep Dobson doesn’t get less then 6 in my eyes leaving them cap strapped I really think he can be had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They need a LHD. And Mayfield is a UFA next summer. So they do need a couple top 4 guys. I think we should try and get Mayfield as Dobson and Pulock are their top 4 guys on the right side. Mayfield can partner with Hughes. I sure wouldn't hate Mayfield, even if I don't think he's a long term solution to the "Hughes partner" conundrum. Doubt they want to give him up with one year left on a super efficient, cheap deal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: Mayfield still comes cheap he’s cap friendly player they’d be smart keep Dobson doesn’t get less then 6 in my eyes leaving them cap strapped I really think he can be had They are not trading Dobson. They will move a forward like Bailey to open up cap space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: I sure wouldn't hate Mayfield, even if I don't think he's a long term solution to the "Hughes partner" conundrum. Doubt they want to give him up with one year left on a super efficient, cheap deal though. Mayfield will be on the 3rd pairing next year. He's not getting an extension with the Islanders for top 4 money. With Hughes he will be playing 18-19 minutes a night. He may even re-sign here. The Islanders need LHD and right wingers. Garland and Rathbone could be trade bait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Mayfield will be on the 3rd pairing next year. He's not getting an extension with the Islanders for top 4 money. With Hughes he will be playing 18-19 minutes a night. He may even re-sign here. The Islanders need LHD and right wingers. Garland and Rathbone could be trade bait... I think they'd still retain him for next year given his contract, if they're going for it (they should be). Solid, cheap, top 4 capable D on your 3rd pair. Sounds like EXACTLY what a contending team would keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Scottydzik said: With islanders looking to get more goal scoring here’s a deal I wonder if it’s available Islanders receive 2024 3rd pick Hoglander Boeser Canucks receive Dobson Pageau Islander never make this trade..Dobson 23, RD, 6'4 - 45 points last season #1 D man for Islanders for years... Canucks would have to send better package back - - 1st rounder 2022 and Boeser No teams are going to trade there future star RD man away only 23 yrs old -- Not trading 1st rounders away....Pageau, 29, 5'10, big no 4 yrs X 5 million... We need to get younger bigger already enough small forwards.. Last season GP 77--39 PTS --- 2020-21 GP 54 - PTS 28. --- Rather keep Boeser and Hoglander-- Trade or sign UFA D man-- Need to clear cap space.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: I think they'd still retain him for next year given his contract, if they're going for it (they should be). Solid, cheap, top 4 capable D on your 3rd pair. Sounds like EXACTLY what a contending team would keep. Sure I agree. Or they can flip him for a younger asset that can help up front or on the left side. I don't see him re-signing with the Islanders, so unless they are thinking they got a shot at the cup next year they may consider moving him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, wildcam said: Islander never make this trade..Dobson 23, RD, 6'4 - 45 points last season #1 D man for Islanders for years... Canucks would have to send better package back - - 1st rounder 2022 and Boeser No teams are going to trade there future star RD man away only 23 yrs old -- Not trading 1st rounders away....Pageau, 29, 5'10, big no 4 yrs X 5 million... We need to get younger bigger already enough small forwards.. Last season GP 77--39 PTS --- 2020-21 GP 54 - PTS 28. --- Rather keep Boeser and Hoglander-- Trade or sign UFA D man-- Need to clear cap space.. We'd have to trade Hughes, Petey or Demko to get Dobson. A 1st and Boeser and they hang up the phone and block JR's number... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 JT Miller, 15th overall for Matthew Barzal, 13th overall Who says no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: JT Miller, 15th overall for Matthew Barzal, 13th overall Who says no? The Islanders lol. Why would they do that? I agree with EPs comments they'd only consider trading Dobson for QHs, EP or Demko ... i'd say not even Demko. Goalies don't get massive value in trades, the position is too easy to fill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Sure I agree. Or they can flip him for a younger asset that can help up front or on the left side. I don't see him re-signing with the Islanders, so unless they are thinking they got a shot at the cup next year they may consider moving him. Well why not keep boeser and offersheet Dobson and force there hand they got 12 mil in cap you offer Dobson just under 7 or tell them give us mayfield for Pearson type deal Edited June 8, 2022 by Scottydzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Scottydzik said: Well why not keep boeser and offersheet Dobson and force there hand they got 12 mil in cap you offer Dobson just under 7 or tell them give us mayfield for Pearson type deal Offer sheets are high risk and come with consequences. Nobody likes them ... look what happened in MTL. CAR revenge offer sheet was one of several things that ended up becoming a nail in Bergy's coffin. GMs ... it's open season on your own guys later ... and these guys need a level of civility and respect to keep doors and phones open. I bet it would have pissed us of to no end if QHs or EP got offer sheeted ... push up their wages in the end. And our team was about as ripe as any's the past decade for one really. Only team i remember ever really going to town with them was St. Louis and that chain of events cost them what they gained and pre-cap things are different now. Reality is most RFAs roster players are worthy of an offer sheet. Only 50% of second rounders play 100 games in the NHL. Edit: To me it's something that really should just be cut out of the CBA. All it does is drive salaries up and create discord in the end. Just so some kid can get more money then he deserves yet. NHLPA kind of wins and loses at the same time. Sure the actual vets aren't too happy about it .., it is completely self serving, both to the player that signs one - and the GM/team that managed to poach the player, but as far as ethics go it feels dirty. Don't have an analogy but maybe this works for all those folks who love eating out : Be like suing the restaurant for "making the coffee to hot", winning, but then getting banned from eating out not just at your favourite place, but half the joints in every town you go to. Edited June 8, 2022 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, IBatch said: Offer sheets are high risk and come with consequences. Nobody likes them ... look what happened in MTL. CAR revenge offer sheet was one of several things that ended up becoming a nail in Bergy's coffin. GMs ... it's open season on your own guys later ... and these guys need a level of civility and respect to keep doors and phones open. I bet it would have pissed us of to no end if QHs or EP got offer sheeted ... push up their wages in the end. And our team was about as ripe as any's the past decade for one really. Only team i remember ever really going to town with them was St. Louis and that chain of events cost them what they gained and pre-cap things are different now. Reality is most RFAs roster players are worthy of an offer sheet. Only 50% of second rounders play 100 games in the NHL. Edit: To me it's something that really should just be cut out of the CBA. All it does is drive salaries up and create discord in the end. Just so some kid can get more money then he deserves yet. NHLPA kind of wins and loses at the same time. Sure the actual vets aren't too happy about it .., it is completely self serving, both to the player that signs one - and the GM/team that managed to poach the player, but as far as ethics go it feels dirty. Don't have an analogy but maybe this works for all those folks who love eating out : Be like suing the restaurant for "making the coffee to hot", winning, but then getting banned from eating out not just at your favourite place, but half the joints in every town you go to. It’s own gms fault for letting it get that far and I don’t see Canucks having any problem with rfa in the future Dobson hughes pairing could be great for next 8 years I think it’s totally worth it 7x7.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Scottydzik said: Well why not keep boeser and offersheet Dobson and force there hand they got 12 mil in cap you offer Dobson just under 7 or tell them give us mayfield for Pearson type deal Dobson is the type of player you make room for. All you accomplish is irritating their management and you still don't have the player you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 20 hours ago, Scottydzik said: Do they match 6 year 6.6 million offer sheet? Dobson doesn't Sign that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 18 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: JT Miller, 15th overall for Matthew Barzal, 13th overall Who says no? NYI say no...Barzal 25 yrs old high end talent playing on defensive minded team.... Miller 29...Islanders Keep Barzal easy decision.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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