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Just now, BureBurrito said:

Never thought he was a good defensemen in Edmonton but since analytics heavy Canes picked him up there seems to be interest....

 

Dont think he's what the team needs

I'd rather have Troy Stecher back at 1.5 per than Bear at the same cost.  

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16 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

Well, he is a young RD, just what the Canucks need, maybe paired with Rathbone (3rd pairing) ?

 

Not very big though, so he and Jack would be skating for their lives out of trouble.

If anything, Bear is (slightly) vertically challenged at 5' 11" (as is Rathbone), but he appears to have decent weight. Lots of folks are/were going on about Woo (who I think will still make it to the NHL) and he's only one inch taller and around the same weight. The only ifs I have is, is there anyone else available who is bigger, and can do the same job (or better) for less money/term? If not, why not kick the tires? He was getting $2 million per for his last contract.

 

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

I'd rather have Troy Stecher back at 1.5 per than Bear at the same cost.  

We already allocated that money to dermott. The rest is to actually upgrade important min munching positions, Not add an abundance of other teams failed small rfas. That is all we have done for 10 years and people still want more of it!!! Man oh man

 

It's like that 3$ coffee that adds up everyday. All these 1.5-2m guys we love to add who don't bring much add up to soo much wasted money

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6 minutes ago, Gollumpus said:

If anything, Bear is (slightly) vertically challenged at 5' 11" (as is Rathbone), but he appears to have decent weight. Lots of folks are/were going on about Woo (who I think will still make it to the NHL) and he's only one inch taller and around the same weight. The only ifs I have is, is there anyone else available who is bigger, and can do the same job (or better) for less money/term? If not, why not kick the tires? He was getting $2 million per for his last contract.

 

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Quinn is small, Jack needs to be givin a shot on the roster or traded real soon. We also have dermott. If we add bear that's now 4 out of 6/7 dmen are tiny! Not happening. Better players go on the waiver wire for 900k and free

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8 hours ago, qwijibo said:

Juulsen is a UFA.  There’s no guarantee he’ll be back with the organization 

I know, so I'd rather re-sign Juulsen for cheaper. 

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20 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said:

Quinn is small, Jack needs to be givin a shot on the roster or traded real soon. We also have dermott. If we add bear that's now 4 out of 6/7 dmen are tiny! Not happening. Better players go on the waiver wire for 900k and free

As per my comments regarding size, money/term and ability. If Bear is capable of playing as a solid defense first bottom-6, for not a huge amount of cash, then I'd gladly take him over someone whose chief mark in his favor was that he is "big". Big, mobile, with some hockey smarts and good puck handling ability on the other hand...

 

IMHO - Rathbone will either get some opportunity as the 3LD at the start of the season, or he'll spend his time in the AHL. Depending on who is available to the team as a 3LD will determine Rathbone's fate here. Maybe just for cap/contracts/waivers reasons he'll be back in Abbotsford. Perhaps that is unfair to him, and perhaps he will ask for a trade, which may well be coming. Rathbone won't be getting top-4 time without one of Ekman-Larsson and Hughes are injured, and he isn't going to get much opportunity to develop at an NHL level in the Canucks' bottom pairing.

 

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1 hour ago, Gollumpus said:

As per my comments regarding size, money/term and ability. If Bear is capable of playing as a solid defense first bottom-6, for not a huge amount of cash, then I'd gladly take him over someone whose chief mark in his favor was that he is "big". Big, mobile, with some hockey smarts and good puck handling ability on the other hand...

 

IMHO - Rathbone will either get some opportunity as the 3LD at the start of the season, or he'll spend his time in the AHL. Depending on who is available to the team as a 3LD will determine Rathbone's fate here. Maybe just for cap/contracts/waivers reasons he'll be back in Abbotsford. Perhaps that is unfair to him, and perhaps he will ask for a trade, which may well be coming. Rathbone won't be getting top-4 time without one of Ekman-Larsson and Hughes are injured, and he isn't going to get much opportunity to develop at an NHL level in the Canucks' bottom pairing.

 

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I'm not sold at all on bear. We don't need anymore feel good stories. We don't need other teams projects. If Bear is going to be your 6/7.. you are a fringe team at best. Canes are a dominant team and Bear can't even solidify his spot on the 3rd pair. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for multiple time cast aways is the pay we need to STOP making. Waste of time, Waste of money. 

 

Now those couple young swede signings are what we should be doing as project players because it doesn't drag down our NHL roster banking on a what if.

 

I would use bone and a winger to get a good rhd

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19 hours ago, DrJockitch said:

Sorry, if wasn’t clear why. I think a D with Rathbone and Q would be too small with Bear as well, especially if Dermott sticks around. 

Bear isn't exactly tiny, he's almost 6 foot, 200lbs. I don't know much about him, does he play small?

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Well, folks around here feel that Bear isn't what they want, and indications are that Juulsen doesn't turn a lot of people's cranks (I wouldn't mind if he made it. He has/had a lot of defensive upside before injuries pushed him back a step).

 

Here's the list of the upcoming UFA RDs on Cap Friendly. Any of these jump out and strike your fancy? https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2023/caphit/all/defense/ufa/desc/right?stats-season=2022

 

If not any of these, who do feel the Canucks can get for some kind of bargain basement price (and are any good)?

 

RESULTS (41)
Stats displayed are season only · 1 GP required when sorting by stats
PLAYER TEAM AGE POS HANDED GP G A P P/GP +/- Sh Sh% TOI W L SO GAA Sv% CLAUSE EXPIRY CAP HIT SALARY
Logo of the New Jersey DevilsNJD 33 RD Right 77 5 17 22 0.29 -8 114 0.04 18:17 - - - - -   UFA $9,000,000 $8,000,000
Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT 35 RD Right 78 10 58 68 0.87 20 214 0.05 25:46 - - - - - M-NTC, NMC UFA $7,250,000 $7,250,000
Logo of the Arizona CoyotesARI 35 RD Right 74 8 15 23 0.31 -16 95 0.08 21:20 - - - - - M-NTC UFA $5,500,000 $5,500,000
Logo of the Dallas StarsDAL 29 RD Right 74 6 41 47 0.64 -28 139 0.04 22:12 - - - - -   UFA $4,250,000 $6,000,000
Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL 30 RD Right 67 6 10 16 0.24 -11 92 0.07 18:58 - - - - - M-NTC UFA $4,100,000 $4,450,000
Logo of the Washington CapitalsWSH 31 RD Right 74 4 19 23 0.31 -15 92 0.04 16:55 - - - - -   UFA $4,000,000 $5,000,000
Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF 29 RD Right 38 2 12 14 0.37 -2 48 0.04 18:58 - - - - -   UFA $3,875,000 $3,875,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 30 RD Right 78 6 11 17 0.22 15 129 0.05 18:08 - - - - -   UFA $1,950,000 $1,950,000
Logo of the New York RangersNYR 35 RD Right 69 6 12 18 0.26 2 73 0.08 19:32 - - - - -   UFA $1,800,000 $1,800,000
Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK 28 RD Right 29 1 2 3 0.10 -7 50 0.02 16:39 - - - - -   UFA $1,700,000 $2,200,000
Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR 28 RD Right 77 2 13 15 0.19 -2 54 0.04 17:27 - - - - -   UFA $1,350,000 $1,350,000
12. Jan Rutta
Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTBL 31 LD/RD Right 76 3 15 18 0.24 25 86 0.03 16:23 - - - - -   UFA $1,300,000 $1,700,000
Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS 28 RD Right 52 0 6 6 0.12 -7 45 0.00 14:13 - - - - -   UFA $1,200,000 $1,400,000
Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH 28 RD Right 65 0 11 11 0.17 -24 61 0.00 16:20 - - - - -   UFA $1,000,000 $1,000,000
15. Mark Pysyk
Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF 30 RD, RW Right 68 3 9 12 0.18 -4 64 0.05 17:49 - - - - -   UFA $900,000 $900,000
Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET 29 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $800,000 $800,000
Logo of the Seattle KrakenSEA 28 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $800,000 $800,000
- 26 RD Right 11 0 0 0 0.00 -4 9 0.00 11:00 - - - - -   RFA $800,000 $800,000
Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK 25 RD Right 8 0 2 2 0.25 -1 9 0.00 15:17 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$771,750 $771,750
20. Alex Biega
Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH 34 RD Right 2 0 0 0 0.00 -2 2 0.00 13:07 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMTL 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
22. Paul LaDue
Logo of the New York IslandersNYI 29 RD Right 1 0 0 0 0.00 -2 1 0.00 12:47 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA 26 RD Right 4 0 0 0 0.00 2 4 0.00 14:00 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI 25 D Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN 25 RD Right 8 0 2 2 0.25 -4 6 0.00 14:40 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTBL 26 RD Right 4 0 0 0 0.00 1 2 0.00 10:40 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 32 RD Right 11 2 4 6 0.55 3 24 0.08 17:27 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 29 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL 27 RD Right 1 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00 08:19 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA 27 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA 31 RD Right 38 1 5 6 0.16 -4 28 0.04 14:43 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI 29 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA 32 RD Right 10 1 1 2 0.20 0 16 0.06 14:07 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Carolina HurricanesCAR 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
36. Ethan Prow
Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF 29 RD Right 4 1 0 1 0.25 -1 2 0.50 12:44 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Dallas StarsDAL 25 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 27 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the New York IslandersNYI 26 RD Right 16 1 0 1 0.06 -1 22 0.05 14:11 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$725,000 $750,000
Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN 27 RD Right 2 0 0 0 0.00 -3 0 0.00 15:44 - - - - -   UFA $725,000 $750,000
Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$725,000 $750,000

 

Gee, Sustr is 6' 7" tall, and just a shade under 220. Is that big enough? This being said, there's probably a reason that a guy with that size was traded/waived  from Tampa Bay, and was only making around NHL minimum...

 

                                           regards,  G.

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13 minutes ago, Gollumpus said:

Well, folks around here feel that Bear isn't what they want, and indications are that Juulsen doesn't turn a lot of people's cranks (I wouldn't mind if he made it. He has/had a lot of defensive upside before injuries pushed him back a step).

 

Here's the list of the upcoming UFA RDs on Cap Friendly. Any of these jump out and strike your fancy? https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2023/caphit/all/defense/ufa/desc/right?stats-season=2022

 

If not any of these, who do feel the Canucks can get for some kind of bargain basement price (and are any good)?

 

RESULTS (41)
Stats displayed are season only · 1 GP required when sorting by stats
PLAYER TEAM AGE POS HANDED GP G A P P/GP +/- Sh Sh% TOI W L SO GAA Sv% CLAUSE EXPIRY CAP HIT SALARY
Logo of the New Jersey DevilsNJD 33 RD Right 77 5 17 22 0.29 -8 114 0.04 18:17 - - - - -   UFA $9,000,000 $8,000,000
Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT 35 RD Right 78 10 58 68 0.87 20 214 0.05 25:46 - - - - - M-NTC, NMC UFA $7,250,000 $7,250,000
Logo of the Arizona CoyotesARI 35 RD Right 74 8 15 23 0.31 -16 95 0.08 21:20 - - - - - M-NTC UFA $5,500,000 $5,500,000
Logo of the Dallas StarsDAL 29 RD Right 74 6 41 47 0.64 -28 139 0.04 22:12 - - - - -   UFA $4,250,000 $6,000,000
Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL 30 RD Right 67 6 10 16 0.24 -11 92 0.07 18:58 - - - - - M-NTC UFA $4,100,000 $4,450,000
Logo of the Washington CapitalsWSH 31 RD Right 74 4 19 23 0.31 -15 92 0.04 16:55 - - - - -   UFA $4,000,000 $5,000,000
Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF 29 RD Right 38 2 12 14 0.37 -2 48 0.04 18:58 - - - - -   UFA $3,875,000 $3,875,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 30 RD Right 78 6 11 17 0.22 15 129 0.05 18:08 - - - - -   UFA $1,950,000 $1,950,000
Logo of the New York RangersNYR 35 RD Right 69 6 12 18 0.26 2 73 0.08 19:32 - - - - -   UFA $1,800,000 $1,800,000
Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK 28 RD Right 29 1 2 3 0.10 -7 50 0.02 16:39 - - - - -   UFA $1,700,000 $2,200,000
Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR 28 RD Right 77 2 13 15 0.19 -2 54 0.04 17:27 - - - - -   UFA $1,350,000 $1,350,000
12. Jan Rutta
Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTBL 31 LD/RD Right 76 3 15 18 0.24 25 86 0.03 16:23 - - - - -   UFA $1,300,000 $1,700,000
Logo of the Boston BruinsBOS 28 RD Right 52 0 6 6 0.12 -7 45 0.00 14:13 - - - - -   UFA $1,200,000 $1,400,000
Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH 28 RD Right 65 0 11 11 0.17 -24 61 0.00 16:20 - - - - -   UFA $1,000,000 $1,000,000
15. Mark Pysyk
Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF 30 RD, RW Right 68 3 9 12 0.18 -4 64 0.05 17:49 - - - - -   UFA $900,000 $900,000
Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET 29 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $800,000 $800,000
Logo of the Seattle KrakenSEA 28 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $800,000 $800,000
- 26 RD Right 11 0 0 0 0.00 -4 9 0.00 11:00 - - - - -   RFA $800,000 $800,000
Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK 25 RD Right 8 0 2 2 0.25 -1 9 0.00 15:17 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$771,750 $771,750
20. Alex Biega
Logo of the Nashville PredatorsNSH 34 RD Right 2 0 0 0 0.00 -2 2 0.00 13:07 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMTL 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
22. Paul LaDue
Logo of the New York IslandersNYI 29 RD Right 1 0 0 0 0.00 -2 1 0.00 12:47 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA 26 RD Right 4 0 0 0 0.00 2 4 0.00 14:00 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI 25 D Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN 25 RD Right 8 0 2 2 0.25 -4 6 0.00 14:40 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Tampa Bay LightningTBL 26 RD Right 4 0 0 0 0.00 1 2 0.00 10:40 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 32 RD Right 11 2 4 6 0.55 3 24 0.08 17:27 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 29 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL 27 RD Right 1 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00 08:19 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA 27 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA 31 RD Right 38 1 5 6 0.16 -4 28 0.04 14:43 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPHI 29 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA 32 RD Right 10 1 1 2 0.20 0 16 0.06 14:07 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Carolina HurricanesCAR 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
36. Ethan Prow
Logo of the Buffalo SabresBUF 29 RD Right 4 1 0 1 0.25 -1 2 0.50 12:44 - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Dallas StarsDAL 25 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$750,000 $750,000
Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY 27 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA $750,000 $750,000
Logo of the New York IslandersNYI 26 RD Right 16 1 0 1 0.06 -1 22 0.05 14:11 - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$725,000 $750,000
Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN 27 RD Right 2 0 0 0 0.00 -3 0 0.00 15:44 - - - - -   UFA $725,000 $750,000
Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK 26 RD Right 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00   - - - - -   UFA
Group 6
$725,000 $750,000

 

Gee, Sustr is 6' 7" tall, and just a shade under 220. Is that big enough? This being said, there's probably a reason that a guy with that size was traded away from Tampa Bay, and was only making around NHL minimum...

 

                                           regards,  G.

Personally I would look at Haydn Fleury out of Seattle as a possible bottom 6 guy/reclamation project

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