HKSR Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Lol... I put this out there a couple months ago... JT Miller to WPG PLD to VAN WPG is much further along and basically in their prime winning years NOW. JTM could really help push them to that next level. PLD is basically a JTM in the making. He'll probably be a solid PPG centre once he hits his prime years. Age is perfect for this group. Both parties should be able to negotiate extensions beforehand, and boom, no step back whatsoever, and much better situated for the future right down the middle of the ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, JM_ said: yeah its not a good look. Pretty much trying to pull a Seth Jones move but a year early. Didn't Drouin do it as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: Lol... I put this out there a couple months ago... JT Miller to WPG PLD to VAN WPG is much further along and basically in their prime winning years NOW. JTM could really help push them to that next level. PLD is basically a JTM in the making. He'll probably be a solid PPG centre once he hits his prime years. Age is perfect for this group. Both parties should be able to negotiate extensions beforehand, and boom, no step back whatsoever, and much better situated for the future right down the middle of the ice. Winnipeg is more likely to rebuild. They have plenty of upcoming UFAs in 2-3 years. Scheifele already wondered about his future and is 2 years to UFA so is Hellebuyck. Doubt they can keep them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vinny in Vancouver said: Didn't Drouin do it as well? I think so, man what a lopsided deal that turned out to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, HKSR said: Lol... I put this out there a couple months ago... JT Miller to WPG PLD to VAN WPG is much further along and basically in their prime winning years NOW. JTM could really help push them to that next level. PLD is basically a JTM in the making. He'll probably be a solid PPG centre once he hits his prime years. Age is perfect for this group. Both parties should be able to negotiate extensions beforehand, and boom, no step back whatsoever, and much better situated for the future right down the middle of the ice. This would be great for us. Can't see Miller extending in The Pig though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, mll said: Winnipeg is more likely to rebuild. They have plenty of upcoming UFAs in 2-3 years. Scheifele already wondered about his future and is 2 years to UFA so is Hellebuyck. Doubt they can keep them. How willing would WPG be to trade Pionk now? I wonder what the cost would be... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, mll said: Winnipeg is more likely to rebuild. They have plenty of upcoming UFAs in 2-3 years. Scheifele already wondered about his future and is 2 years to UFA so is Hellebuyck. Doubt they can keep them. Love to get Scheifele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: This would be great for us. Can't see Miller extending in The Pig though. you're assuming that he wants to stay married. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, JM_ said: How willing would WPG be to trade Pionk now? I wonder what the cost would be... The Oinkster would be ideal here. Garland for the Oinker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: The Oinkster would be ideal here. Garland for the Oinker? steal for us if they want to do that. In a literal heartbeat. Hughes-Pionk would be a legit top pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, JM_ said: steal for us if they want to do that. In a literal heartbeat. Hughes-Pionk would be a legit top pair. The Jets have trouble keeping (attracting) star players. So Garland having 4 more years at a good cap and right through his prime should interest them. IMHAO Garland's contract would interest all the teams that struggle to attract UFAs and need to overpay to keep their high end RFA's. What's the list of those teams? Winnipeg Ottawa Buffalo Columbus ? Which of those teams would be in their cycle of trying to be a winner now? I can see Garland to any of those clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, JM_ said: I think so, man what a lopsided deal that turned out to be. It feels eerily like the same situation here - disgruntled, young, skilled, potential 1C player who has shown flashes of being great. Maybe Montreal bites again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, JM_ said: How willing would WPG be to trade Pionk now? I wonder what the cost would be... They still hope to extend Dubois long term - but that seems unlikely and they will then have to decide on their direction. It just feels like they have a culture issue - the end of season pressers was not a team working together. They just have several players close to UFA and it's hard to see how they can patch things up. 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Love to get Scheifele. Doesn't sound like a team player after his comments at the end of the season and Stastny pretty much going after him for being only focused on himself vs the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Maybe the Laine for Dubois trade was one whiner for another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, mll said: Winnipeg is more likely to rebuild. They have plenty of upcoming UFAs in 2-3 years. Scheifele already wondered about his future and is 2 years to UFA so is Hellebuyck. Doubt they can keep them. What team doesn't have several UFAs coming up in 2 to 3 years? lol I mean, things can be different now, but the last normal season that occurred (ie. not impacted by covid), the Jets were a top 10 team in the league. This year could be the real Jets, or it could be a down year as Hellebuyck underperformed, and Scheifele, Wheeler, and Ehlers all missed significant time with injuries. Morrissey has 6 years left Connor has 4 years left Ehlers has 3 years left Lowry has 4 years left Schmidt has 3 years left Pionk has 3 years left All of their main core guys are in their late 20s. Right in their prime years. They've also got all of these guys pushing up from the bottom: Stanley Perfetti Lucius Heinola Chibrikov Samberg Vesalainen Salminen I'd say they may retool a little bit seeing that it may be time to move PLD. Connor and Ehlers are just starting to really hit their prime. It'd be a terrible time to blow it up. Adding a JT Miller in his prime could be a huge difference maker for them. Edited June 23, 2022 by HKSR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, JM_ said: more likely a deep fried pergoie place. Maybe they got him pirogies at JOEY, just to add insult to injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Trade Miller, Boeser, Garland for futures and then parlay some of those returns into a trade for Dubois with an extension in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Pears said: Trade Miller, Boeser, Garland for futures and then parlay some of those returns into a trade for Dubois with an extension in place? When can PLD sign an extension - July 1, 2023 right? Getting him now would put us in the same spot the Jets are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: That's the going rate for a 1C... He's a 1st line centre now? 61 point career high (so far), 47% FO% more giveaways than blocked shots takeaways and still trying to find himself. Not sure I'd give the guy $8 million, but by those metrics wow did we ever do good because we have 3 1st line centres on the team in Horvat Miller and Pettersson 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: When can PLD sign an extension - July 1, 2023 right? Getting him now would put us in the same spot the Jets are in. Once he gets a taste of Vancouver life after living in Winnipeg that should be enough to convince him to sign a decent extension I would think. 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: He's a 1st line centre now? 61 point career high (so far), 47% FO% more giveaways than blocked shots takeaways and still trying to find himself. Not sure I'd give the guy $8 million, but by those metrics wow did we ever do good because we have 3 1st line centres on the team in Horvat Miller and Pettersson I agree. I wouldn’t like him as a center and he isn’t a better center than Pettersson, Miller, Horvat (also taking Pearson, Miller, Boeser, Garland trades into consideration) but imagine him rolling on Petey’s LW since that’s his secondary position: Dubois - Pettersson - Podkolzin Kuzmenko - Horvat - xxxx Höglander - xxxx - xxxx Few holes to fill yet but I absolutely love the looks of that top line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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