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Am I missing something with this guy?

 

Why was he so sought after and how is he worth 3.4 million? His numbers are fairly average and I know draft position doesnt

matter but this guy was undrafted and doesn’t exactly come with a great pedigree…

 

The Demko contract continues to look like the best gift that Benning left us. 

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8 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Am I missing something with this guy?

 

Why was he so sought after and how is he worth 3.4 million? His numbers are fairly average and I know draft position doesnt

matter but this guy was undrafted and doesn’t exactly come with a great pedigree…

 

The Demko contract continues to look like the best gift that Benning left us. 

Personally I feel he's better than his stats show. He lost the starting job to the best goalie on the east coast. Hes not a backup be needs the volume starts to get rolling. He's an upgrade over keumper imo.

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1 minute ago, DeNiro said:

Am I missing something with this guy?

 

Why was he so sought after and how is he worth 3.4 million? His numbers are fairly average and I know draft position doesnt

matter but this guy was undrafted and doesn’t exactly come with a great pedigree…

 

The Demko contract continues to look like the best gift that Benning left us. 

 

Colorado is built off analytics - they turned the corner when they developed that department and Sakic started listening to them.  They probably looked at saves above expected and see themselves as more reliable defensively than NYR.   It's Grubauer being a Vezina finalist in Colorado and falling off a cliff in Seattle - different environment.  

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Am I missing something with this guy?

 

Why was he so sought after and how is he worth 3.4 million? His numbers are fairly average and I know draft position doesnt

matter but this guy was undrafted and doesn’t exactly come with a great pedigree…

 

The Demko contract continues to look like the best gift that Benning left us. 

He was pretty solid as a rookie in both 2017-18 and 2018-19 at just 21 and 22 years old, which had a lot of people excited. That said, however, his numbers have steadily dropped year after year since then, so I would be a bit wary. Still, he's only 26 years old and might have a bounce back in him.

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22 minutes ago, mll said:

 

Colorado is built off analytics - they turned the corner when they developed that department and Sakic started listening to them.  They probably looked at saves above expected and see themselves as more reliable defensively than NYR.   It's Grubauer being a Vezina finalist in Colorado and falling off a cliff in Seattle - different environment.  

 

 

 

Fair enough if they think his stats aren’t telling the whole story.

 

The fact is he has not proven he can be a starter and this is quite the gamble by Colorado if they’re counting on him to be.

 

Grubauer and Georgiev are not even close to comparable. Grubauer had a long track record of success in Washington before coming to Colorado.

 

Is New York’s D that much worse than Colorado’s to think there will be some huge improvement? I don’t see it.

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3 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Fair enough if they think his stats aren’t telling the whole story.

 

The fact is he has not proven he can be a starter and this is quite the gamble by Colorado if they’re counting on him to be.

 

Grubauer and Georgiev are not even close to comparable. Grubauer had a long track record of success in Washington before coming to Colorado.

 

Is New York’s D that much worse than Colorado’s to think there will be some huge improvement? I don’t see it.

NYR were quite poor defensively per Sportlogiq which Colorado uses for their analytics.  Colorado one of the better defensive teams.

 

Grubauer was mostly a backup in Washington with Holtby the starter, but in the final year (when they won) he took over to end the season.  Played 35 games that season, most of any of his previous seasons, but lost his spot in round 1 after 2 games.  It's Holtby that was their starter for their Cup run.

 

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18 minutes ago, mll said:

NYR were quite poor defensively per Sportlogiq which Colorado uses for their analytics.  Colorado one of the better defensive teams.

 

Grubauer was mostly a backup in Washington with Holtby the starter, but in the final year (when they won) he took over to end the season.  Played 35 games that season, most of any of his previous seasons, but lost his spot in round 1 after 2 games.  It's Holtby that was their starter for their Cup run.

 

Even more impressive as backups typically get the tougher matchups. Again not even close to comparable to Georgiev who has had limited success.

 

You don’t get to where New York did by being “quite poor defensively” Shesterkin or not. Again is the drop off from New York to Colorado defensively that much? I don’t see it.

 

Willing to be Georgiev isn’t even in the top 15 of goalie stats if he ends up being their starter.

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31 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Even more impressive as backups typically get the tougher matchups. Again not even close to comparable to Georgiev who has had limited success.

 

You don’t get to where New York did by being “quite poor defensively” Shesterkin or not. Again is the drop off from New York to Colorado defensively that much? I don’t see it.

 

Willing to be Georgiev isn’t even in the top 15 of goalie stats if he ends up being their starter.

Defensive stats up to March for NYR using Sportlogiq.  Colorado is one of the best teams at defending rush chances while NYR ranked 31st in March.  I'd guess they looked up the type of goals he was giving up and compared it to his environment in NYR vs theirs / likely also what kind of shots they are giving up and how well he did in those situations.  It's easy now with tracking technology.   It's only a guess given how invested Colorado has been in advanced stats.

 

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4 hours ago, 73 Percent said:

Personally I feel he's better than his stats show. He lost the starting job to the best goalie on the east coast. Hes not a backup be needs the volume starts to get rolling. He's an upgrade over keumper imo.

This I don't get.

 

Sure, Kuemper was a little erratic during the playoffs. And yeah, his contract demands at his age may not be worth it. But all of his stats - underlying included - indicate that he's a very good goalie, and not just on a stacked Avs team. 

 

I get why Colorado did this, but if anyone is expecting Georgiev to be an upgrade in net, they are likely to be severely disappointed.

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3 hours ago, D-Money said:

This I don't get.

 

Sure, Kuemper was a little erratic during the playoffs. And yeah, his contract demands at his age may not be worth it. But all of his stats - underlying included - indicate that he's a very good goalie, and not just on a stacked Avs team. 

 

I get why Colorado did this, but if anyone is expecting Georgiev to be an upgrade in net, they are likely to be severely disappointed.

I agree. Only thing I can think is that Kuempers contract demands are just too much for the Avs to handle, cap wise. So they had to part ways.

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7 hours ago, D-Money said:

This I don't get.

 

Sure, Kuemper was a little erratic during the playoffs. And yeah, his contract demands at his age may not be worth it. But all of his stats - underlying included - indicate that he's a very good goalie, and not just on a stacked Avs team. 

 

I get why Colorado did this, but if anyone is expecting Georgiev to be an upgrade in net, they are likely to be severely disappointed.

We'll see. I watch a lot of Rangers games being out east. He looks similar to demko to me when demko was trapped behind Marky.

 

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