Is the team any closer to having an identity?

[Timråfan]

Well, the Sedins are in the game again so great offensive qualities, intelligent/creative but soft in top 9.

Typical Swedish approach according to some here. 

 

[JM_]

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Was it Bieksa last year who said the Canucks’ identity is as a really “fun team to play against”.  

that was under Green. 

[JM_]

27 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Isn't our identity this: 

thats the fan base 

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, JM_ said:

that was under Green. 

Is the team any different?  Same players. Heck, if anything (after moving Hamonic) we might be more fun to play against. 

[JM_]

Just now, Alflives said:

Is the team any different?  Same players. Heck, if anything (after moving Hamonic) we might be more fun to play against. 

nah it got fun for us under BB when we stopped falling back and conceding shots on Demko.

 

What I like about the new look F group is it has a good chance of being very hard to play against; really good forechecking, speed, snipers, should be a good PP and PK, we're kind of looking like an all situation group up front. I like 'hard to play against' as an identity to strive for.

 

Who cares if there's a lot of the same guys coming back? I don't understand why thats bad, Colorado has some pretty $&!#ty years under MacKinon and Landy. 

 

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, JM_ said:

nah it got fun for us under BB when we stopped falling back and conceding shots on Demko.

 

What I like about the new look F group is it has a good chance of being very hard to play against; really good forechecking, speed, snipers, should be a good PP and PK, we're kind of looking like an all situation group up front. I like 'hard to play against' as an identity to strive for.

 

Who cares if there's a lot of the same guys coming back? I don't understand why thats bad, Colorado has some pretty $&!#ty years under MacKinon and Landy. 

 

And Sakic traded both ROR and Duchene to change his club from being “too fun to play against.”

Msybe we need to trade both Bo and Miller to really make the change we need to our identity?  

[Ghostsof1915]

[JM_]

Just now, Alflives said:

And Sakic traded both ROR and Duchene to change his club from being “too fun to play against.”

Msybe we need to trade both Bo and Miller to really make the change we need to our identity?  

why would we move two guys that actually are hard to play against? 

 

I think the whole over-simplified identity thing is nice for media folks. I just want to see a team thats good in all the fundamental areas. I think the F group as it stands today has that chance. 

 

I'm most excited about the potential for a new PK1: Lazar Mikheyev OEL Myers - thats going to kill a lot of penalties for us. 

[higgyfan]

I s'pose having lots of new players will have an affect on team character.  What that will be is anyone's guess.

[vancan2233]

53 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

Our fans sure do:  "woe is me/us" with a little Eeyore "oh bother" mixed in for good measure.

 

I feel like our team's identity is one of resilience and fortitude.

 

If we'd stayed the same AFTER Bruce arrived, sure. But clearly this team is building an identity...they just had to be given enough leash (and support) to do so. People here exercise NO patience in a "want it all and want it now" deal. Petey's injury was a factor...let the dust settle for awhile.

 

LOL, I've seen it SO much worse and there are a lot of things to be excited about with this group. Some here spend all their time focusing on the negative. I've avoided commenting recently as it's just not worth it but I will go down swinging for my team. 

The fans on this forum are hard to reason with, no matter what is happening the negative side will come out. A trade happens and the Canucks suck because they missed out. We sign someone it was for too much and not the right player to sign, we draft a excellent player is was the wrong position, and.....

[DrJockitch]

The three Russian forwards all come with the description of dogged puck pursuit. Add to that the intrinsic piss you off value of Garlad and Hoglander as well as what looks like a fourth line of Joshua-Lazar and Lockwood which mixes speed, hitting and general toughness.  We also look to have three annoying, attacking scoring lines. 
I see a frustrating team that comes at you in waves and forechecks aggressively. 
The D is what it is. 
Rathbone, OEL and Quinn make for a solid attacking Left side, the Right D is there on the right side.  Yep, they are definitely there on the right. 
Obviously goal is our biggest strength. 

[Nucklefuts]

We are team Sweden

[IBatch]

59 minutes ago, JM_ said:

thats the fan base 

Bingo! 

[IBatch]

1 hour ago, JM_ said:

that was under Green. 

Pretty funny how Pearson became a "tough guy to play against".... right after the coaching change.   Personally i don't take as much issue in Green, he gave us the bubble and was a placeholder coach with some promise.    And despite what some might think, was a little old school too - but not old school like some dinosaurs that got put out to pasture like Babcock did.    To me he was just ok.   And go ahead and blare your horns about Bruce - if and when things go south his mana will also be reduced quickly by this fanbase.   Fortunately for him I think that management isn't going to rebuild or even re-set the rebuild. 

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

i think the new brass of coaches (BB) and management is at least attempting to form an identity for this team. 

They've been here less than a year. I would give them time.

 

I'm glad we actually have a team of management mixed with experience and new executives with fresh ideas rather than a two headed monster running things.

 

It's really hard to fix a team once under a management brass that had the mentality of living "day by day" for the past 8 years (Thanks Jimbo/Weisbrod).

It was a sh*tshow and takes a lot of time to heal because of the sheer amount of damage accumulated over nearly a decade.

 

We're still in damage control from what I can see. Until we move out some of the big contracts, it will be hard forming a new "identity".

 

 

Edited July 16, 2022 by PetterssonOrPeterson

[DSVII]

As long as the identity isn't "hard to play against". That's code word for signing overaging grinders that hit. (See philly)

 

 

[KyGuy123]

Few and far between id go with. No real Prospect depth and hope everything goes right to get a wildcard position. At least we have some decent coaching and a great Goalie.

[Canuckfanforlife82]

1 hour ago, -DLC- said:

Our fans sure do:  "woe is me/us" with a little Eeyore "oh bother" mixed in for good measure.

 

I feel like our team's identity is one of resilience and fortitude.

 

If we'd stayed the same AFTER Bruce arrived, sure. But clearly this team is building an identity...they just had to be given enough leash (and support) to do so. People here exercise NO patience in a "want it all and want it now" deal. Petey's injury was a factor...let the dust settle for awhile.

 

LOL, I've seen it SO much worse and there are a lot of things to be excited about with this group. Some here spend all their time focusing on the negative. I've avoided commenting recently as it's just not worth it but I will go down swinging for my team. 

I get what your saying. I am just basing everything on what current management said at the end of the year and what they are doing. They said we weren’t good enough but with Kuzmenko, Mekiyev, and Lazar we are without touching the defense. I don’t know. We will see.

[ilduce39]

46 minutes ago, DrJockitch said:

The three Russian forwards all come with the description of dogged puck pursuit. Add to that the intrinsic piss you off value of Garlad and Hoglander as well as what looks like a fourth line of Joshua-Lazar and Lockwood which mixes speed, hitting and general toughness.  We also look to have three annoying, attacking scoring lines. 
I see a frustrating team that comes at you in waves and forechecks aggressively. 
The D is what it is. 
Rathbone, OEL and Quinn make for a solid attacking Left side, the Right D is there on the right side.  Yep, they are definitely there on the right. 
Obviously goal is our biggest strength. 

Yeah, I don’t buy being down on the actual team going into next year.  
 

Played awesome down the stretch and improved this offseason.  Add in a year of cohesion as a team and under Bruce and it should be a fun group to watch. 
 

Twitter’s most recent sports cliche to obnoxiously mock is the “anything can happen” line but with Demko I think it stands.  The team is a contender up front and in net… and if Hughes and OEL are playing 50 minutes a game I think we’re more dangerous than people give credit for.

Edited July 16, 2022 by ilduce39

[Baggins]

48 minutes ago, Timråfan said:

Well, the Sedins are in the game again so great offensive qualities, intelligent/creative but soft in top 9.

Typical Swedish approach according to some here. 

 

If you watched the Sedins and saw the punishment the took without missing a beat you would know they were anything but "soft". No, they were not punishing hitters or drop the glove guys. But that doesn't make them soft at all. Soft are the guys that do their utmost to avoid contact and are intimidated by physical play. Considering how strong the Sedins were along the boards and their willingness to take a hit to make a play they were anything but soft.

 

Shane Doan called the Sedins after they retired. He was asked on a radio show why he called them and he talked about their toughness. He said every coach he had, and there's been quite a few over his career, said the same thing - play the Sedins physical and throw them off their game. There are a lot of high end players you can throw off their game by hitting them and being physical, but it wasn't the Sedins. He said it was tough to get any reaction from them. They would just bounce off and go and score. Doan, said they were anything but soft because they just didn't care what you did to them. He said, I played against them their entire career and nothing I did worked to stop them, and they were awful to play against along the boards. Playing physical was my game, but I was completely frustrated that it didn't work against them. It's a different level of toughness and I just really respect them. Doan said he called the Sedins after they retired to congratulate them on their careers and retirement out of respect.