Fanuck Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: I like Miller. Huberdeau commands more at the deadline! And right now? I believe, unlike many others, that CGY has put themselves in a difficult situation here. Don't get me wrong, they didn't have a lot of options since Tkackphuck essentially pulled a Kessler and screwed them. But they'll be competitive and in the mix for another division title, they won't be eager to deal these guys with an expected long PO looming before the TDL. And if they don't pull the trigger on a trade (these guys would be rentals at that point) they'll be in another Gudreau situation all over again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 6 hours ago, N4ZZY said: If Matthew Tkachuk is a generational talent, then what does that make McDavid? the chosen one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted July 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 hours ago, N4ZZY said: If Matthew Tkachuk is a generational talent, then what does that make McDavid? the only thing generational about Tkatchup is he's an asshole like his dad. 1 2 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 hours ago, N4ZZY said: If Matthew Tkachuk is a generational talent, then what does that make McDavid? Simple. Until Tkachuk gets his own slew of Rogers commercials, he cannot be considered generational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Huberdeau and Weeger are very good players that add to the team's overall competitiveness. They are 4/5yrs older than Tketchup and may not have the individual talent of him, but together, they offer a great package. I do think that the Flames should have held out for a better prospect that what they got in this trade. Of course, the elephant in the room is what will these two players do when they reach UFA this season. This could end up very messy for Calgary, or, perhaps being a pair of Cdn boys, they are happy to be back in Canada and sign for lots of $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Huberdeau and Weeger are very good players that add to the team's overall competitiveness. They are 4/5yrs older than Tketchup and may not have the individual talent of him, but together, they offer a great package. I do think that the Flames should have held out for a better prospect that what they got in this trade. Of course, the elephant in the room is what will these two players do when they reach UFA this season. This could end up very messy for Calgary, or, perhaps being a pair of Cdn boys, they are happy to be back in Canada and sign for lots of $. You make good points. IMHO even if Calgary signs these guys long term they are taking on risk. Their next 8 years are very likely not going to be as good as their previous 8 years and Calgary could find themselves paying 17-20 million per year for 2 guys well into their 30s. This can go wrong for them in so many ways if they dont take the right path. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, rekker said: Simple. Until Tkachuk gets his own slew of Rogers commercials, he cannot be considered generational. He's already got an endorsement deal with Telus though: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, tas said: the chosen one. So he's going to turn to the dark side and kill younglings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Darius said: You make good points. IMHO even if Calgary signs these guys long term they are taking on risk. Their next 8 years are very likely not going to be as good as their previous 8 years and Calgary could find themselves paying 17-20 million per year for 2 guys well into their 30s. This can go wrong for them in so many ways if they dont take the right path. Good point about the age + signing a long term contract. Similar to the situation with Miller. Also, I notice that they both have inflated #s due to playing on a high scoring team. More reason for Calgary to have held out for Lundell and Weegar for the trade. They would have had to add more cap from the Panthers end (due to not taking Huber) but the only player that will be a UFA is Hornquist, who also has an M-NTC (8 teams). Anyhow, it's all good for Nuck fans. Only seeing TKetchup's ugly mug twice a year will be awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: Huberdeau and Weeger are very good players that add to the team's overall competitiveness. They are 4/5yrs older than Tketchup and may not have the individual talent of him, but together, they offer a great package. I do think that the Flames should have held out for a better prospect that what they got in this trade. Of course, the elephant in the room is what will these two players do when they reach UFA this season. This could end up very messy for Calgary, or, perhaps being a pair of Cdn boys, they are happy to be back in Canada and sign for lots of $. I think this is true. I think Calgary could have gotten a better return than Weegar, and who the heck was the prospect that they got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 18 hours ago, DeNiro said: Generational talent? Lol. Lets not get carried away… If you like him or not he is one of the best down low battlers and net front goal scorers in the NHL. I hate the kid, but he was drafted for his skill down low and in front of the net. He may not be the fastest player, but if you have to battle him along the boards he usually gets the puck. He has sick hands in close to the goalie. I would not have paid him 9.5 million , but he does bring a hard to find set of skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, vancan2233 said: If you like him or not he is one of the best down low battlers and net front goal scorers in the NHL. I hate the kid, but he was drafted for his skill down low and in front of the net. He may not be the fastest player, but if you have to battle him along the boards he usually gets the puck. He has sick hands in close to the goalie. I would not have paid him 9.5 million , but he does bring a hard to find set of skills. Not doubting his abilities, but throwing out the term “generational talent” is implying we haven’t seen a player like him (or won’t see a player like him) in a generation. Very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Not doubting his abilities, but throwing out the term “generational talent” is implying we haven’t seen a player like him (or won’t see a player like him) in a generation. Very unlikely. Yes, he's not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Do the Panthers get enough fans to pay those contracts, or are they a have not team that gets money from revenue sharing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Pretty buyout proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aGENT Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 8 hours ago, higgyfan said: They are 4/5yrs older than Tketchup and may not have the individual talent of him, but together, they offer a great package Huberdeau was one of the league's scoring leaders last season. Pretty sure he's just as, or more talented, as dick face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, aGENT said: Huberdeau was one of the league's scoring leaders last season. Pretty sure he's just as, or more talented, as dick face. Both Huberdeau and Tkechup had incredible seasons, but you have to acknowledge the age difference (28yrs/23yrs). It will be interesting to see how each player will do without the line mates (Barkov/Johnny Munchkin) helped them get those best ever seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Just now, higgyfan said: Both Huberdeau and Tkechup had incredible seasons, but you have to acknowledge the age difference (28yrs/23yrs). It will be interesting to see how each player will do without the line mates (Barkov/Johnny Munchkin) helped them get those best ever seasons. Yup, not arguing your age comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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