Got the Babych Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So both Huberdeau and now Kadri have signed deals that bring them to age 38. So remind me again why Miller is only going to sign a 6 year deal at age 30? Because he is not going to sign for the reported "Kadri" of 7x7. He might get the "Huberdeau" elsewhere, but I don't think so, as it is a horrible contract offered from a uniquely unbalanced bargaining position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So both Huberdeau and now Kadri have signed deals that bring them to age 38. So remind me again why Miller is only going to sign a 6 year deal at age 30? Because not all players are the same and not all players want to sign until they’re 38? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Because not all players are the same and not all players want to sign until they’re 38? If Miller doesn't want to play until he is 38 he can simply retire and leave the money on the table. Why would you purposely sign only a 6 year deal when you can get another 2 years guaranteed at top dollar when you are in your prime years, which gives you all the security you need and still allows you to walk away any time you want if you so desire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 hours ago, JM_ said: I would feel bad for Bailey if he ends up in AZ, thats a lousy way to treat a lifetime player. Still seems like someone else is going to have to go tho to make the cap work. It sucks, no question, he's been rock solid fir them But I'm sure his millions would console him, and they'd probably flip him anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If Miller doesn't want to play until he is 38 he can simply retire and leave the money on the table. Why would you purposely sign only a 6 year deal when you can get another 2 years guaranteed at top dollar when you are in your prime years, which gives you all the security you need and still allows you to walk away any time you want if you so desire? UFAs do it all the time. Some players would rather take it one year at a time at that age. Also there’s no guarantee a team would offer him 7 years in free agency. If a team was good with that term and his ask someone would have stepped up and traded for him already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got the Babych Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If Miller doesn't want to play until he is 38 he can simply retire and leave the money on the table. Why would you purposely sign only a 6 year deal when you can get another 2 years guaranteed at top dollar when you are in your prime years, which gives you all the security you need and still allows you to walk away any time you want if you so desire? What's this guaranteed top dollar 8 year contract you're speaking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, Got the Babych said: What's this guaranteed top dollar 8 year contract you're speaking of? The one he is signing now instead of only signing a 6 year deal and then trying to get another contract later if he wants to play past 36 years of age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, DeNiro said: Nobody wants any of the players they’d wanna dump though that’s the thing. Im not sure how they supposedly have all three signed before a trade is made. That's true that no one wants their players. I think they must have plan A in place, which is something like dumping Bailey to ARI with some serious picks as sweeteners. This gives them $16m in cap space to work with. Then they sign Kadri (7m), Dobson (5m bridge), Romanov (2m) + 2 more depth Dmen = approx. $16m total. Maybe they have plan B up their sleeves for the possibility that another team offer sheets Dobson. In that case, they will need to match and dump another forward (Beauvillier?...could they have this lined up too?). Or maybe they don't have this lined up and that is why they're staying so silent until Dobson is signed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 18 hours ago, BPA said: NYI has to be trading some players out (Varlamov, Bailey)? Bailey, pageau, Beauvillier all seem likely candidates to clear cap if Kadrina is signing there long-term. None of them have full trade protection and all three still have some value to a given team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Bailey, pageau, Beauvillier all seem likely candidates to clear cap if Kadrina is signing there long-term. None of them have full trade protection and all three still have some value to a given team. Where to? There's close to no cap space around the league. Kekaleinen believed that he would be the one adding an asset if he had waited to trade Bjorkstrand. There's really only 5 teams that can easily take on a 5M contract - Anaheim, Arizona, Chicago, Detroit and Buffalo. Rebuilding teams that are probably not going to give up their cap space without an add-on. Chicago and Arizona are even openly tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Coconuts said: It sucks, no question, he's been rock solid fir them But I'm sure his millions would console him, and they'd probably flip him anyway true dat. Hell for millions I'd consider living in Alberta.... well maybe not, but Buffalo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 11 hours ago, DeNiro said: Nobody wants any of the players they’d wanna dump though that’s the thing. Im not sure how they supposedly have all three signed before a trade is made. Lou is going to have to give up a 1st at least to AZ and or Buffalo to move 9.1 mil in cap. AZ also doesn't want to actually get better. Not sure signing Kadri to 7x7 and giving up a 1st and whatever other assets is really the smartest move by ol Lou, but that division is going to be tough and even getting a wildcard is no guarantee with CBJ retooling. AZ has Lou by his low hanging fruit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: JT Miller for Noah Dobson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: JT Miller for Noah Dobson? There’s been actual talk of that happening which would be crazy. mostly though it’s that they have signed extensions in place for their RFAs and likely a Kadri deal already done, but Lou Lam has been holding all of it back from being announced, as per usual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: JT Miller for Noah Dobson? Would be literally best case scenario in my eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: Would be literally best case scenario in my eyes. did Lou have a stroke though? I mean why would he do that deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, JM_ said: did Lou have a stroke though? I mean why would he do that deal? Maybe Lou thinks it’s better to spend on forwards instead on defence like TO?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, BPA said: Maybe Lou thinks it’s better to spend on forwards instead on defence like TO?? I guess thats possible... dunno. Would certainly help our d group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, JM_ said: I guess thats possible... dunno. Would certainly help our d group. There's is an almost zero chance that NYI would move Dobson and less than zero chance they'd do it for miller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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