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9 minutes ago, gurn said:

Media, and lots of it.

I've got a "Canadian Cops" thread going and do note that very few people go to it, or post.

Hype media, also a lot of people like to point out other people's problems and ignore their own. It is easier to do that than work for change of our home grown issues.

I think its even deeper than that. E.g., the freedom folks, look at how many US symbols are used, that one fool even talking to a Canadian judge about his "1st amendment rights" :picard:

 

 

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11 minutes ago, JM_ said:

I think its even deeper than that. E.g., the freedom folks, look at how many US symbols are used, that one fool even talking to a Canadian judge about his "1st amendment rights" :picard:

 

 

Our education system, a long with being bombarded by US messaging, is failing the Canadian people.

Bit by bit, about 10 y-15 years behind our American neighbour, we face the same issues.

Sadly, despite them being an 'early warning' device we ignore the dangers.

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40 minutes ago, JM_ said:

no one is saying our police are without fault, but why are things like more attention to US incidents and stupid American ideas like defund the police so popular up here? why do we look to them instead of our own issues?

Because the people who benefit from these things are the ones who parrot it. People need to start questioning why these people have these opinions instead of just taking their made up anecdotes at face value.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, gurn said:

Our education system, a long with being bombarded by US messaging, is failing the Canadian people.

Bit by bit, about 10 y-15 years behind our American neighbour, we face the same issues.

Sadly, despite them being an 'early warning' device we ignore the dangers.

I'll respectively disagree there.

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5 minutes ago, JM_ said:

what could our education system do to help with the flood of US messaging tho? anything? 

As the "media specialist" (aka teacher librarian) for my school, a big part of my job is teaching kids how to find, vet and cite credible sources of information and to be able to identify misinformation sources as well.  We start that pretty early, basics around grade two........I spend a lot of time using the US as an example of both great sources of information, but more as an example of what happens to a country when they swept up in eaves of disinformation and how that foments misguided anger etc. 

 

Though I can only speak for kids that go through my school, they love the pop culture that comes out of the US, but they also do a pretty good job of understanding the serious issues that the US has and how we try to minimize those same issues in Canada.  

 

I also teach 6/7 social studies and the human rights differences between the two neighbors is always a big part of my course.

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27 minutes ago, stawns said:

As the "media specialist" (aka teacher librarian) for my school, a big part of my job is teaching kids how to find, vet and cite credible sources of information and to be able to identify misinformation sources as well.  We start that pretty early, basics around grade two........I spend a lot of time using the US as an example of both great sources of information, but more as an example of what happens to a country when they swept up in eaves of disinformation and how that foments misguided anger etc. 

 

Though I can only speak for kids that go through my school, they love the pop culture that comes out of the US, but they also do a pretty good job of understanding the serious issues that the US has and how we try to minimize those same issues in Canada.  

 

I also teach 6/7 social studies and the human rights differences between the two neighbors is always a big part of my course.

maybe we've just missed the boat on the parents? 

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2 hours ago, JM_ said:

no one is saying our police are without fault, but why are things like more attention to US incidents and stupid American ideas like defund the police so popular up here? why do we look to them instead of our own issues?

Murder rate in Canada is 4 times higher than Switzerland or Italy for example.

Amongst western and developed nations Canada is close to the top in terms of murders.

But as long as it’s lower than the U.S, things are good in the eyes of many.

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11 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Murder rate in Canada is 4 times higher than Switzerland or Italy for example.

Amongst western and developed nations Canada is close to the top in terms of murders.

But as long as it’s lower than the U.S, things are good in the eyes of many.

Didn’t know this.  But it supports no citizens (other than police, Military, Farmers, and Hunters) should have a firearm.  Commit a crime while in possession of a firearm, whether using it or not, and it’s automatic prison for life. 

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14 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Murder rate in Canada is 4 times higher than Switzerland or Italy for example.

Amongst western and developed nations Canada is close to the top in terms of murders.

But as long as it’s lower than the U.S, things are good in the eyes of many.

that is true. 

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28 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Murder rate in Canada is 4 times higher than Switzerland or Italy for example.

Amongst western and developed nations Canada is close to the top in terms of murders.

But as long as it’s lower than the U.S, things are good in the eyes of many.

To be fair, the majority are gangland murders.......in BC at least

 

 

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12 minutes ago, stawns said:

To be fair, the majority are gangland murders.......in BC at least

 

 

Please share the information that leads you to this conclusion. Statistics Canada says about 32% of homicides in BC from 2016 to 2020 are related, or are suspected of being related, to gangs/organized crime.

 

 

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3 hours ago, JM_ said:

maybe we've just missed the boat on the parents? 

That's a good way to look at it.  When the internet really hit and kids has regular access to it, teachers didn't really know how to deal with it or teach them how to use it properly......it was the real wild west days of the transition in education and there's a whole generation (millennials) who didn't get a proper media education when they were young.........they are now parents of the kids I teach.

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29 minutes ago, stawns said:

That's a good way to look at it.  When the internet really hit and kids has regular access to it, teachers didn't really know how to deal with it or teach them how to use it properly......it was the real wild west days of the transition in education and there's a whole generation (millennials) who didn't get a proper media education when they were young.........they are now parents of the kids I teach.

to me the Z's seem a lot more chill than the older millennials, and less influenced by media, or maybe just more street wise in that way. 

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11 minutes ago, MunKay said:

I just got off a 16-17 hour shift in Langley as I work for the RCMP. It was not an easy night, that’s all I can really say. 
 

Stay safe, stay vigilant everyone. 

Seeing the photo of the police car with multiple bullet holes in the windshield directly in line with the driver’s head shows how incredibly courages our officers are.  Our officers protect us from some very bad people.  

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