Off_The_Schneid! Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 16 hours ago, hammertime said: I think you're the only one who thinks Reinbacher will be there at our pick. Honestly if both Reinbacher and Michkov are gone which they will be I have no beef with moving the pick. If we could get a young established 3c and a pick in Bonk territory I'd be all over that. 16 hours ago, stawns said: I'm not the only one. Mackenzie has him at #20, Button even later than that. I think everyone is mesmerized by a rhd, and not really looking clearly. He's likely to be a solid player, no question about that. That doesn't mean some team in the top 10 won't go off board though. I think their is a chance, I don’t agree with the argument that a team will reach for a defence man because he is the top rated D in the draft ( which he isn’t consensus) I think the quality of forwards available in the top 10 especially centers will be difficult for teams to pass up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, Off_The_Schneid! said: I think their is a chance, I don’t agree with the argument that a team will reach for a defence man because he is the top rated D in the draft ( which he isn’t consensus) I think the quality of forwards available in the top 10 especially centers will be difficult for teams to pass up . agreed, for some reason people want to think I'm anti-reinbacher, when, really, I'd be very happy if they picked him at 11, though he might not be my first pick. Like you, it's moe about the quality of fwds in the top 10 than it is about DR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, NorthWest_Express said: Drafting Dragicevic at 11 would be as big a mistake as taking Juolevi over Tkachuk Hmmm, I dunno, Juolevi was a pretty massive mistake. Almost as bad as taking Jake over Larkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWest_Express Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: Hmmm, I dunno, Juolevi was a pretty massive mistake. Almost as bad as taking Jake over Larkin. We took Virtanen over Nylander and Ehlers which was a big mistake. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Sleeper... Right-shot C with good size. Point-a-game in the OHL. IQ Skating Skill Shot 200-foot game Competitiveness Calum Ritchie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, NorthWest_Express said: I wish we had more picks especially in the 2nd round....some Canadian defenders I would like to add: Molendyk, Price, Allen, Akey Hopefully PA can move some vets and pick up the 2nd rdr we traded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: I think their is a chance, I don’t agree with the argument that a team will reach for a defence man because he is the top rated D in the draft ( which he isn’t consensus) I think the quality of forwards available in the top 10 especially centers will be difficult for teams to pass up . I read somewhere that the last time a Dman wasnt picked in the top 5 was 2003, I think its pretty safe to say one goes in the top 10 this year and that it is most likely Reinbacher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 28 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Hopefully PA can move some vets and pick up the 2nd rdr we traded. Didn't sound likely... He mentioned specifically moving up in the draft by using our 3rd and 4th rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I’m hoping for Sale, Reinbacher, Cristall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 One of my former students https://vernonmatters.ca/2023/04/18/vernon-hockey-product-ranks-on-nhl-central-scouting/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: I read somewhere that the last time a Dman wasnt picked in the top 5 was 2003, I think its pretty safe to say one goes in the top 10 this year and that it is most likely Reinbacher. I believe the stat references D taken in the top 10. I stand corrected.. 2003 was the last year a D was not selected in top 5. That was the year MA Fleury went 1st OA Edited April 20 by I.Am.Ironman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 20 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: I believe the stat references D taken in the top 10. I stand corrected.. 2003 was the last year a D was not selected in top 5. That was the year MA Fleury went 1st OA I don't expect a d to go top 10 this year and if one does, it's pretty off board......rankings wise. This top 15 is packed with high end fwds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 1 Goal and 3 assists so far for Axel Sandin Pellika in the 2nd period vs Canada edit: 4 assists half way through 3rd now Edited April 20 by Off_The_Schneid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 What the heck happened to Team Canada? Cristall Barlow Dragicevic Ritchie Wood, etc. They should all be embarrassed. Sandin Pellikka is going Top 5. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 16 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: What the heck happened to Team Canada? Cristall Barlow Dragicevic Ritchie Wood, etc. They should all be embarrassed. Sandin Pellikka is going Top 5. Well, Canada only has a handful of their top stars. Sweden has their full roster that has already all played together for about three other tournaments this year alone. But yeah, 8-0 is pretty ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 21 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Hmmm, I dunno, Juolevi was a pretty massive mistake. Almost as bad as taking Jake over Larkin. juolevi looked awesome in the world junior tourney. i thought he would be a good nhl'er. jake was local and had all the tools. the knock on jake was his hockey sense. it was a gamble that didn't work. hindsight is always perfect. i've made some rotten picks on players too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, smithers joe said: juolevi looked awesome in the world junior tourney. i thought he would be a good nhl'er. jake was local and had all the tools. the knock on jake was his hockey sense. it was a gamble that didn't work. hindsight is always perfect. i've made some rotten picks on players too. The voice of reason Joe... OJ and JV were both picked after good showings, not because JB wanted to pick duds... Some of the folks moaning about these picks, should try and remember, who they wanted, when Petey was picked... I made some rotten choices as well in life... Hindsight is a wonderful thing. If only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On the subject of D men being available - I really do think there's a very good chance that there isn't a D man taken in the top 10 this year. Reinbacher / ASP don't have Seider levels of upside and the F's available in the top 10 are really too good to pass on for a lower ceiling D man. Or at least that is how it appears to a casual observer... Which brings me to the point of Juolevi and Virtanen - both were smallish reaches at the position, but anyone who was open minded enough could see the reasoning and upside the players had, especially given the context of where the organization was at the time and how it was trying to build. The massive failings were for me on how the scouts evaluated personalities and how they projected for top 6 picks. It was clear that both picks had commitment issues, with Jake having some more serious personality issues. Juolevi was hampered by his injuries for sure, but he clearly did not do everything he could to work on his strengthening and conditions and there were the unconfirmed reports of his video game issues. Huge mistakes setting the organization back years. I hope the new management has worked to improve the scouting and talent evaluation from the Benning era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWest_Express Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 19 hours ago, Screw said: I’m hoping for Sale, Reinbacher, Cristall Reinbacher will be gone. At 11, you need to grab a C or ASP/Simashev. Cristall is a hard pass and Sale is a good target but we have enough wingers and he isnt head and shoulders above the other players in that tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, HighOnHockey said: Well, Canada only has a handful of their top stars. Sweden has their full roster that has already all played together for about three other tournaments this year alone. But yeah, 8-0 is pretty ridiculous. Their goalie let in 5 of 7 shots ooof (.286% save percentage). Canada making ASP look like a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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