Eddie Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, hammertime said: You watching this game Dvorsky has looked absolutely awful. He's turned it over every time he's touched the puck. No - but he does indeed seem to be trending down for sure - and if is stinking up the place that badly could bump him down a tier. I'm not 100% sold on him, but not sure there is another C that is a better option right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Eddie said: No - but he does indeed seem to be trending down for sure - and if is stinking up the place that badly could bump him down a tier. I'm not 100% sold on him, but not sure there is another C that is a better option right now. Danielson's a stud. I'd peg him as the next best C after Smith. With several names inbetween. Agreed Stenberg is looking good though. Edited April 21 by hammertime 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuietQuitter Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, Eddie said: No - but he does indeed seem to be trending down for sure - and if is stinking up the place that badly could bump him down a tier. I'm not 100% sold on him, but not sure there is another C that is a better option right now. I haven't watched any games but how does Stenberg look? His listed as a forward, so I'm not sure if he projects as a center at the NHL level. He had a big game vs Canada yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, Eddie said: No - but he does indeed seem to be trending down for sure - and if is stinking up the place that badly could bump him down a tier. I'm not 100% sold on him, but not sure there is another C that is a better option right now. Lol Hammertime is exaggerating wildly. He's had a hate-on against Dvorsky for a long time. Slovakia as a team is getting picked apart at every turn. Dvorsky can't do everything himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said: Lol Hammertime is exaggerating wildly. He's had a hate-on against Dvorsky for a long time. Slovakia as a team is getting picked apart at every turn. Dvorsky can't do everything himself. You think he's looking good? It's not a hate I just think he's wildly over rated. Youre right he does look like a guy trying to do it all himself. Oddly enough there are 5 other players on the ice with him. Edited April 21 by hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, hammertime said: You think he's looking good? No need to start with the putting words in people's mouths again. I'm not sure what you were expecting in a game like this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 7 hours ago, HighOnHockey said: No need to start with the putting words in people's mouths again. I'm not sure what you were expecting in a game like this though. I'm not sure what you're saying? There are still things you can assess in a game like this. Strbak Pekarcik have looked good Cisar, Masnica have also been playing quite well. Edited April 22 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuietQuitter Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Eddie said: I think of Prospects that are likely to be available in our range. Will Smith - Very very likely to be gone by 11 - but can't pass if he is on board. 1C material every day Oliver Moore - Kids speed and vision is amazing - would be a perfect pick to replace Miller at #2 C as he ages. Ryan Leonard - Yeah we don't need ANOTHER winger - but we don't really have one with Leonards skill set - All round hard-nosed player with good skill across the board. Likely NHL ready next year. Reinbacher / ASP slot in here for me - currently I'm favoring ASP on recent showings. Dalibor Dvorsky - Another big body C with a good all-round tool box - Lower Ceiling higher floor kinda guy, but worst case I think could fill our 3C hole. Pass : Cristall - Lekkerimaki 2.0 I can see him sliding for similar reasons, looks quite one dimensional. Sale - Another winger with admittedly a very nice toolbox - but I think he carries enough risk to not risk a pick on a position were already loaded on. Honzek - A lot to like here, and could be a great reach pick, but clearly he's a tier below the other players available in our position. DET likely draft him, their gonna feast with the 2 picks they got from us with some very good players available in those positions. Hopefully Hronek is worth it ! I highlighted all that I agree with. Although, as much as Sale can be disappointing at times, he's a much better option than Cristall if you're looking for a player with potential to be an elite winger, because he has more to his game than just flash. Edited April 21 by TheQuietQuitter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Can we maybe get a player with size as well as speed, and skill? Bedard if the hockey gods smile on us just this once can be the exception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuietQuitter Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Can we maybe get a player with size as well as speed, and skill? Bedard if the hockey gods smile on us just this once can be the exception. I've only seen a handful of game clips, but maybe that's why Wood has risen in the rankings? Still needs to work on his skating and foot speed, but the size is definitely there, and you can see his potential in his stick handling and puck control if he can process the game a little faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Pekarcik to Masnica beauty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, hammertime said: Pekarcik to Masnica beauty. LOL. Are you forgetting someone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said: LOL. Are you forgetting someone? Yes nice pass from Dvorsky there too. Happened fast. I stand corrected. The play by play guys called Pekarcik to Masnica. Edited April 21 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Zeb Forcfjall having himself a game for Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheQuietQuitter Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 I just realized that I've probably scouted more names from this draft class than the last 10 drafts combined. Lol It's becoming one of my favourite Hockey hobbies and I'm truly grateful to everyone sharing their opinions and knowledge of the players and their games. As someone who doesn't have the body or mind to keep up anymore, living vicariously through these amazing talented young men has really ignited my passion for Hockey again in what was an otherwise forgettable season. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 (edited) 42 minutes ago, hammertime said: I'm not sure what you're saying? There are still things you can assess in a game like this. Strbak Pekarcik have looked good underagers Cisar, Masnica have also been playing quite well. Hardly any point getting into it as nobody is gonna change their mind here. But I thought he's been their best player in the defensive zone all game. Offensively he hasn't been very good but when you consider the context it's nothing surprising or unusual. I've always talked about Dvorsky as a guy who's at his best offensively away from the puck. Now in this situation he's needed by his team to carry the puck and for offense to run through him. Everyone on both teams knows where the play is running through whenever he's on the ice, it's not his primary strength and his offensive support is badly overwhelmed and Sweden knows to focus their defense on him. Not a recipe for success. I know you're more into the flashy players who carry the puck all the time, but both sides of offense are equally important. It's just the Lekkerimaki vs Kemell argument all over again. Edited April 21 by HighOnHockey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, Off_The_Schneid! said: Zeb Forcfjall having himself a game for Sweden He's a real sleeper in this draft he's had a great year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuietQuitter Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, hammertime said: He's a real sleeper in this draft he's had a great year. Love the name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 9 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said: I thought he's been their best player in the defensive zone all game. Hardly any point getting into it as nobody is gonna change their mind here. Offensively he hasn't been very good but when you consider the context it's nothing surprising or unusual. I've always talked about Dvorsky as a guy who's at his best offensively away from the puck. Now in this situation he's needed by his team to carry the puck and for offense to run through him. Everyone on both teams knows where the play is running through whenever he's on the ice, it's not his primary strength and his offensive support is badly overwhelmed, and Sweden knows to focus their defense on him. I know you're more into the flashy players who carry the puck all the time, but both sides of offense are equally important. It's just the Lekkerimaki vs Kemell argument all over again. Ya I'm just not seeing what youre seeing. He just made that brutal pass that put them offside in the final minute. Kemell looks pretty good no? PPG in the AHL Edited April 21 by hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuietQuitter Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I watched an interview with Dvorsky where he was asked what he wanted to work on, and without hesitation mentioned his defensive game. I think he see's himself as a 200ft defensive minded center with the abiility for some offense at the NHL level. He was a team worst -19 this season for a bad AIK team in the Allsvensken which could explain his answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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