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2 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

Well, the fact that I forgot about him should tell you something about how cold I am on him right now, but yeah he should probably be there in the 5th tier.

Let's give it up for table 5.

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27 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

A comparable I've seen for Sale is Matt Boldy. Somebody who is good at everything and teeders on the line of elite production. He would provide a significant boost to any team's offensive corps. He would make a good pick for just about any team that drafts him.

Yeah that sounds like a pretty solid comparison to me. I would be inclined to give Sale the edge in terms of skill and upside, but he's got a long way to go to get to Boldy's 200+ lbs. Another player I see some of in Sale is David Pastrnak.

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On 5/2/2023 at 10:39 PM, kenhodgejr said:

I think the moves Vanouver should make should be small and calculated. We need to use the 1st round pick to add another good prospect to the team. We also need to find value in cheap players that cost under 1m. Good team management has cheap players making big contributions. We have done a good job with signings. We could make a couple small trades for cheap players who are AHL/ NHL guys that could contribute. Id be looking at a projectable RD in the AHL with speed, IQ, defensive awareness who is under 25 

Canucks need to find homes for Garland and Beauvillier and hopefully get a couple draft picks in the Second round.  

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On 5/2/2023 at 10:33 PM, Off_The_Schneid! said:

 

Well they can't all fit in the top 10,  if Dvorsky and Pellikka haven't moved up in the top 10 then the Canucks will be happy to get one of those 2.  

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The most obvious comparable to ASP would be Adam Boqvist. They both had very similar draft year production and both 5'11" RDs. I like ASP more than Boqvist in his draft year, as I think ASP has improved significantly throughout the year on the defensive side and is a bit heavier than Boqvist. I also thought Chicago drafted Boqvist too high and that he should have been drafted after Hughes Bouchard, and Dobson at around 12th.

 

Axel Sandin Pellikka

2022-2023 Skellefteå AIK Champions HL 7 0 0 0 2
  Skellefteå AIK J18 J18 Nationell 0 0 0 0 0
  Sweden U18 Hlinka Gretzky Cup 5 0 2 2 6
  Skellefteå AIK J20 J20 Nationell 31 16 20 36 64
  Skellefteå AIK SHL 22 2 3 5 0
  Sweden U18 WJC-18 7 2 9 11 0
  Sweden U18 (all) International-Jr 19 5 16 21 6
  Sweden U20 WJC-20 7 0 1 1 6
  Sweden U20 (all) International-Jr 9 0 1 1 6

 

Adam Boqvist (8th Overall)

2017-2018 Brynäs IF J20 J20 Nationell 25 14 10 24 18
  Brynäs IF SHL 15 0 1 1 4
  Brynäs IF Champions HL 3 0 1 1 2
  Almtuna IS HockeyAllsvenskan 7 0 2 2 2
  Sweden U18 WJC-18 6 3 3 6 2
  Sweden U18 Hlinka Gretzky Cup 5 1 7 8 0
  Sweden U18 (all) International-Jr 16 4 11 15 2
  Sweden U20 (all) International-Jr 3 0 1 1 0
  Sweden (all) International 1 1 0 1 0
             

Over the past three seasons Boqvist has 62 points in 133 NHL games

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4 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:

 

The most obvious comparable to ASP would be Adam Boqvist. They both had very similar draft year production and both 5'11" RDs. I like ASP more than Boqvist in his draft year, as I think ASP has improved significantly throughout the year on the defensive side and is a bit heavier than Boqvist. I also thought Chicago drafted Boqvist too high and that he should have been drafted after Hughes Bouchard, and Dobson at around 12th.

 

Axel Sandin Pellikka

2022-2023 Skellefteå AIK Champions HL 7 0 0 0 2
  Skellefteå AIK J18 J18 Nationell 0 0 0 0 0
  Sweden U18 Hlinka Gretzky Cup 5 0 2 2 6
  Skellefteå AIK J20 J20 Nationell 31 16 20 36 64
  Skellefteå AIK SHL 22 2 3 5 0
  Sweden U18 WJC-18 7 2 9 11 0
  Sweden U18 (all) International-Jr 19 5 16 21 6
  Sweden U20 WJC-20 7 0 1 1 6
  Sweden U20 (all) International-Jr 9 0 1 1 6

 

Adam Boqvist (8th Overall)

2017-2018 Brynäs IF J20 J20 Nationell 25 14 10 24 18
  Brynäs IF SHL 15 0 1 1 4
  Brynäs IF Champions HL 3 0 1 1 2
  Almtuna IS HockeyAllsvenskan 7 0 2 2 2
  Sweden U18 WJC-18 6 3 3 6 2
  Sweden U18 Hlinka Gretzky Cup 5 1 7 8 0
  Sweden U18 (all) International-Jr 16 4 11 15 2
  Sweden U20 (all) International-Jr 3 0 1 1 0
  Sweden (all) International 1 1 0 1 0
             

I think the big allure for Boqvist that year for me was Boqvist could absolutely crank the puck. He wasn't nearly as cerebral a PMD or strong defensively as ASP at this stage. I had Hughes for evasion and IQ over Boqvist but I had Boqvist close due to positional rarity and far superior shot to Hughes. 

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4 minutes ago, hammertime said:

I think the big allure for Boqvist that year for me was Boqvist could absolutely crank the puck. He wasn't nearly as cerebral a PMD or strong defensively as ASP at this stage. I had Hughes for evasion and IQ over Boqvist but I had Boqvist close due to positional rarity and far superior shot to Hughes. 

Is Boquist still in the league? 

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18 hours ago, R3aL said:

I’ve become a bit obsessed with Stenberg. If he was a little taller I think he’d be higher on a lot of boards.

 

i don’t want a tournament to impact how I view a player so drastically but I can’t help it Stenberg has really impressed me 

He reminds me of Leonard, basically a 5"11 gritty power forward.  He's not play with a lot of talent on his line nor is he getting a lot of ice time in the SHL. Common theme for 17 year olds. I see a lot of similarities in their game.  North South guys that dive to the net and use body positioning that makes them hard to move.  Heavy for their height and both play a heavy gritty game.  Of course Leonard put up insane numbers but he's not playing against men like Stenberg is int the SHL.  He will drop in the draft but not out of the top 15.   

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9 minutes ago, hammertime said:

I think the big allure for Boqvist that year for me was Boqvist could absolutely crank the puck. He wasn't nearly as cerebral a PMD or strong defensively as ASP at this stage. I had Hughes for evasion and IQ over Boqvist but I had Boqvist close due to positional rarity and far superior shot to Hughes. 

Pellikka has shown a far better defensive game than Boqvist did in his draft year their offensive numbers are comparable but ASP still edges out Boqvist in that department as well.  

 

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23 minutes ago, hammertime said:

I think the big allure for Boqvist that year for me was Boqvist could absolutely crank the puck. He wasn't nearly as cerebral a PMD or strong defensively as ASP at this stage. I had Hughes for evasion and IQ over Boqvist but I had Boqvist close due to positional rarity and far superior shot to Hughes. 

ASP filled the net at almost the same ridiculous pace that Boqvist did at the U20 level (Boqvist 0.56 g/gp vs ASP 0.52 g/gp), but ASP has fared much better against older competition.

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3 hours ago, Gawdzukes said:

ice waiting GIF by tarninabarn

 

Leonard

Reinbacher

Benson

Dvorsky/Wood

Sale

 

That's my list in order right now. One of them will be there. I think we'll see a couple eye openers in the top 10 and the world will be our oyster as they say. 

 

ASP

Yager

Danielson

 

are my next 3.

 

Yager, Wood, and Sale, are the three guys I see where it's easy to label what could go wrong but they all seem to have that special magic that just gets it done when it counts.

I got a feeling it's going to be like the 2018 draft. Alvin will be the one ecstatic that an elite player dropped to us.  Remember how excited Benning was when Hughes dropped in our laps, that's the feeling I'm getting with this draft. 

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8 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:

ASP filled the net at almost the same ridiculous pace that Boqvist did at the U20 level (Boqvist 0.56 g/gp vs ASP 0.52 g/gp), but ASP has fared much better against older competition.

I agree I think there's more to ASP's game than Boqvist had at this age. But ASP's shot is not nearly this dangerous. This is why he went were he did incredibly deceptive release to go along with his puck skills. 

 

 

 

That was a blast from the past. 

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 If Alvin is going back to the sea of Lekkerimaki's 

 

Obviously what he values highly and what I want are super far apart. But in giving it some thought. If his sole focus is high end elite skill. As he believes he can get character guys who compete hard and play roles by other means. 

 

If we use @J.I.A.H.N's model here 

And I try to look at it through the lens Alvin is communicating to his scouts.

 

 

We trade 11 OA to CHI

 

To Nux 

20oa Reily Heidt Gets it done on the inside plays bigger than he is. Franchise player upside. 5'11 180 might even make it as a C. I have him ahead of Benson and Cristal. But rankings have him here. 

 

35oa Gavin Brindley PPG in the NCAA which is nuts he's full of pep watch him battle 6'3 210 Knies at the big ten. He will drop just outside the 1st because he's 5'9 160. I posted this already put I'll put it up again because its a fun watch.

 

44oa Luca Pinelli 18 points in 11 playoff games >> Zack Benson 12 points in 10 playoff games. >> Andrew Cristal 1 point in 4 playoff games - Even Reily Heidt only had 8 points in 9 playoff games. 

 

I caught a couple of Pinelli's games he's a real sleeper. Playoffs are where men are separated from the boys. He's ranked way too low including by myself.

 

Anyway food for thought. I'm trying to put my biases aside as I want Big strong D power fwds and 2 way C's I want to hit on a player with every pick. Instead I'm trying to look at it like buying lotto tickets. 

 

Just go for the jackpots.

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7 hours ago, Pure961089 said:

I got a feeling it's going to be like the 2018 draft. Alvin will be the one ecstatic that an elite player dropped to us.  Remember how excited Benning was when Hughes dropped in our laps, that's the feeling I'm getting with this draft. 

I literally cried tears of joy when Hughes miraculously fell to us. Lol. I needed to tell someone about the grand larceny we had just pulled off and so I called my wife at work but I was so excited that I couldn’t even articulate complete sentences lol. 
 

I have a feeling that Benson is the one player that could miraculously drop to us this year. If he  does that’ll be another highway robbery for us. 
 

PS During the 2019 draft when it was our turn to pick I thought we were going to pull off another massive heist and nab Matthew Boldy. I was on the edge of my seat, getting ready to go nuts, but they regrettably passed on what I strongly believed would’ve been an amazing winger for Pettersson. I really like Podkolzin, but I fear that he will never be quite the impact player that Boldy has already become. 

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10 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

A comparable I've seen for Sale is Matt Boldy. Somebody who is good at everything and teeders on the line of elite production. He would provide a significant boost to any team's offensive corps. He would make a good pick for just about any team that drafts him.

Oh wow, I like that comparison. I’m big Boldy fan and with that comparison I’ve now officially bought a ticket to get a seat on the Sale bandwagon lol.
 

I’ve only ever seen him play twice, both times at the U18’s but I really liked what I saw. 

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Aside from Wood and Danielson, who've been talked about here plenty, are there any big bodies ranked within range of the first half of the first round anyone would take a swing on at 11? Honzek? Halttunen? But? Edstrom? Stramel? Maybe Simashev?

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2 hours ago, YearoftheNuck said:

I literally cried tears of joy when Hughes miraculously fell to us. Lol. I needed to tell someone about the grand larceny we had just pulled off and so I called my wife at work but I was so excited that I couldn’t even articulate complete sentences lol. 
 

I have a feeling that Benson is the one player that could miraculously drop to us this year. If he  does that’ll be another highway robbery for us. 
 

PS During the 2019 draft when it was our turn to pick I thought we were going to pull off another massive heist and nab Matthew Boldy. I was on the edge of my seat, getting ready to go nuts, but they regrettably passed on what I strongly believed would’ve been an amazing winger for Pettersson. I really like Podkolzin, but I fear that he will never be quite the impact player that Boldy has already become. 

 

I didn't think Podkolzin would be there past 7th, so he caught me completely off guard in that draft.  I remember seeing him as ranked 3rd overall in terms of skill, with the KHL two year contract hanging over him.  

 

If Benson drops to us, it's a no-brainer for me.  The only caveat with Benson is that he's been playing with great teammates/linemates for a long time now with Winnipeg Ice.  He's the play driver though, so I have very little fear that he's being propped up by his linemates. 

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