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53 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

 

From what I’ve read, Danielson is to C as Willander and Simashev are to D.  
 

Bigger bodied, very mobile, defence-first players with the only thing holding them from being surefire top 10 selections is that their offensive ceilings are questionable. 
 

Willander and Danielson are both right handed but Simashev is a true big man at 6’4 compared to 6’2.  
 

In fairness to Danielson, his team sucked so he didn’t get to play with elite line mates and if anything that’s hope towards him having another gear offensively.

I think ultimately it still depends on the team's positional needs, despite the BPA philosophy that everyone preaches. If as you said Danielson is a to C as much as Willander and Simashev is to D, then I don't see why we take Danielson over the 2 Ds. We all know top Ds are very hard to come by (we paid a 1st and 2nd for Hronek), and Canucks simply haven't drafted many which is partly the reason for the deficiencies on our current blue line. 

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Just now, Odd. said:

Anyone want to bet this thread hits 500 pages by Friday?

Maybe, we're biting at the bit for the next few seasons to get started and a big part of it potentially if we can snag a top 4 RHD prospect especially. I still stand by picking the best player available at D for this draft and the next and load up. 

We already have a log jam of forwards anyway. 

Could we go on for 500 pages? Hmmm I think "Burrows, do we really need him?"  I think, has as close to 500 pages as we're ever going to get.. ask Deb about that one, I could see her blowing a gasket reading that! ;)

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1 hour ago, Ilunga said:

Dunno Brother 

 

I really believe that the talent outside of the top 4 is all over the place. 

Even Smith isn't a lock for top 5 talent wise IMO, and others.

 

Arguments can be made for and against the next 15 odd players.

Then the next 30 odd players, arguments can be made for and against drafting them between 20 - 50. 

 

It's one of those drafts that you see what unfolds as it happens IMO.

Of course you have players that you target, and hopefully one of our higher targets drops to us.

Personally I hope all of Simashev, ASP, Reinbacher and Willander all go top 10, that means we are going to get a great centre prospect. 

Won't happen but I can hope, and then Dvorsky will almost certainly fall to us.

 

I am so high on this kid.

Apart from his talent, it's his work ethic and drive that I believe will help him achieve his ceiling.

 

There are some potentially good big RHD that may be available in the third round. 

Certainly not stars, but big bodied shut down defence men.

 

 

There is a drop off after the top 4 guys, Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov.  The 15th player taken in the draft could be better than 5th overalll.  Matthew Wood could be better than Will Smith.  And I think he will be.  Look at the 2016 draft.  Tage Thompson was taken 26.  He is better than all of the top 5 picks except Matthews.  He is arguably the 3rd best player in the entire draft, behind only Matthews and Thachuk.

 

Same thing could happen this year.  If teams are gonna pass on Matthew Wood, they are gonna regret it.  Dude is gonna be a beast.  13 points at the U18's wasn't a fluke.  I hope the Canucks don't regret it by passing on him...

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3 hours ago, canuckwings said:

Just watched a clip of Elite Prospects' Cam Robinson on Sekeres and Price. They did a mock draft for picks 1-11.

 

For Canucks' 11th pick, they each pick a different for the sake of being different. 

 

Robinson - Benson

Price - Simashev

Sekeres - Willander

 

This is my top 3. I hope this happens. 

 

Robinson said he doesn't think Canucks will draft Danielson for the same reasons said by many here - safe pick but low ceiling and at 11th there are better choices. He also made a great point about the teams draft philosophy. He thought Lekkerimaki was a boom or bust pick last year (you may or may not agree), and that's also consistent with what PA said to the scouts in one of the Canucks videos. 

 

I'm so excited for tomorrow's draft...don't disappoint me please. 

If I were to guess based off the process they went through to pick Lekkerimaki and if I think they will do the same this year then they are going to take big swings.  My 3 picks that have the biggest potential are Benson, Simashev and Wood, but I think they will go for size this year, so I wouldn't be surprised if they passed on Benson.  If they follow the same philosophy they'll go for the most potential.  And their player development allows them to do this.  

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I think picks 5-10 are wide open - so we will see how everything plays out - always amazed why teams would make it a bit public who went out with which team for dinner - maybe its a red herring given you are picking 4-5 spots behind other teams.  Anyway, from what I have read -  Davosky, Barlow, Wood, Willander, Danielson, Simashev, ASP, Reinbacher, Benson could all potentially be drafted.  I think the Canucks will pick the best player in this group (unless someone in top 6 drop) who will have most impact for their given position - so not necessarily just points - maybe they'll even surprise us a pick and choose a Sale or Cristall.

 

Interesting choices ahead.

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

There is a drop off after the top 4 guys, Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov.  The 15th player taken in the draft could be better than 5th overalll.  Matthew Wood could be better than Will Smith.  And I think he will be.  Look at the 2016 draft.  Tage Thompson was taken 26.  He is better than all of the top 5 picks except Matthews.  He is arguably the 3rd best player in the entire draft, behind only Matthews and Thachuk.

 

Same thing could happen this year.  If teams are gonna pass on Matthew Wood, they are gonna regret it.  Dude is gonna be a beast.  13 points at the U18's wasn't a fluke.  I hope the Canucks don't regret it by passing on him...

He has a lot of raw potential, that's for sure.  And the Canucks have put a lot of money into their player development. I think it's likely they take big swings and you only do that when you're confident in your development staff. Wood and Simashev are the projects worth putting in the time for.

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On 6/26/2023 at 11:36 PM, KirkSave said:

Sam Cosentino thinks we likely draft a RD like Reinbacher (if he slips) or Willander. If we go with a forward, he thinks it could be Honzek (LW) cause he plays for the giants in Van. I agree with the RD projections, should either Willander or Reinbacher be available but man alive, we don't need another winger if we draft a forward. We need some C prospects (high end) like Moore or Danielson.

 

I still think we might go off board and snag Simashev-at least that is my preference. At least there will be no shortage of intriguing options for us at 11 come draft day!

I think that after watching Simashev break ankles and seeing Dan a Milsteins face, that the the Nucks think Simashev can play RD or LD.

 

His wing span will be pretty good, a lot of bigger D men with reach are universal defenders.

 

it’s the skating that I found amazing for such a large player. 
 

One description was ‘Skates like Hughes, defends like Tanev.’

 

I say, heck ya!

 

that’s the player I want this year.

 

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It is easy to always say BPA. Think we should really be thinking best asset available.  The idea that if the pieces don’t fit if you have BPA you can trade them. 
We have seen the incredible disparity in the value of winger compared to C or D. A winger that isn’t one of the elite, elite has essentially no value or negative if on a contract with term that isn’t bargain basement. 
We need C and D in the prospect pool desperately, we need C and D in the NHL desperately. We will draft Benson.  We are Canurcks. 

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Hoping to see Oliver Moore as our pick but wouldn’t be too upset about many guys in this draft. Only guy I’m not super sold on that could hit 11 is Eduard Sale and I have some doubts about Zach Benson. Otherwise will be hard to be upset with whoever we get. 

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12 hours ago, McBackup said:

I’ll consider it, thanks. My big thing is I’d like to watch it with sound.

 

The Canucks used to have draft parties but stopped. I think they should start doing it again.

Too many riots after big moments...   :ph34r:

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39 minutes ago, CanuckFan1123 said:

Hoping to see Oliver Moore as our pick but wouldn’t be too upset about many guys in this draft. Only guy I’m not super sold on that could hit 11 is Eduard Sale and I have some doubts about Zach Benson. Otherwise will be hard to be upset with whoever we get. 

Moore, ASP, Simashev for me........if they top of the draft goes as expected.  It'll be interesting to see who falls.

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