Ilya Mikheyev Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) Minor rumour, but I'm still dreaming of an Aston-Reese - Lazar - Joshua 4th line, so thought I'd share Edited July 29, 2022 by Ilya Mikheyev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I really like Aston Reese and thought he would've been signed by us considering Rutherford brought him to Pittsburgh. Hope we find a way to snag him, he would be a solid physical, 4th line option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Good pick up for them. Could see Motte coming in on a 1 year/PTO (injury prone but heart of a warrior) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 His best year was 17 Points. Meh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 48 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Meh? It's all about the role. No, he's not a high paid, fancy player that is going to get you lots of points. But for a 4th line player, he plays the role well. If we didn't already have our 4th line basically set, I'd be interested. But as it stands we already have too many forwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: His best year was 17 Points. Meh? Other than his second season, when he set that career high of 17 points (and also a career high points/GP), Aston-Reese’s value has been almost entirely on the defensive side of the puck, where his impact has placed him as high the 99th to 100th percentile among NHL players in measures like “EV defence WAR.” The question for me is whether or not such impacts are projectable, especially when it comes to lower minute role players/specialists? It seems like a fair measure of this class of players’ success is dependent on usage and systems, and their sparkling defensive fancy stats may not always translate perfectly across teams. We’ve seen this recently with Dickinson, who was another very highly touted (by analytics) defensive forward with an upper 90’s percentile defensive impact, but somehow dropped to an atrociously negative “EV defence WAR” in his first season with Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Other than his second season, when he set that career high of 17 points (and also a career high points/GP), Aston-Reese’s value has been almost entirely on the defensive side of the puck, where his impact has placed him as high the 99th to 100th percentile among NHL players in measures like “EV defence WAR.” The question for me is whether or not such impacts are projectable, especially when it comes to lower minute role players/specialists? It seems like a fair measure of this class of players’ success is dependent on usage and systems, and their sparkling defensive fancy stats may not always translate perfectly across teams. We’ve seen this recently with Dickinson, who was another very highly touted (by analytics) defensive forward with an upper 90’s percentile defensive impact, but somehow dropped to an atrociously negative “EV defence WAR” in his first season with Vancouver. You youngin's and your fancy, new fangled stats. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: His best year was 17 Points. Meh? The point totals aren't worrying, cause that was 17 points in 43 games. The scary thing is the fact he is more fragile than Tanev was for us. Aston-Reese has played more than 60 games once, it was this passed season. With a 50 game season and has two 40 game seasons. League min is the most I'd do. Guy is made of glass and our team has a habit of injurying even the most iron of men. IE Sutter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: You youngin's and your fancy, new fangled stats. This instance has alot more to do with our team not having any sort of system and just chase the play, In comparison to a real good defensive playoff team at the time. I don't expect his hands to get much better but once all 5 players on the ice learn to support eachother and not play as individuals... He should improve as well. Pools and Dicky don't need to blow people out of the water, they just need to provide atleast 2.5m in value to the team. Last year was like 750k lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: His best year was 17 Points. Meh? Like others have said, not really an offensive power house, and that's why I said '4th line' in the OP. But he's solid defensively, lots of dzone deployment, and a very very physical presence - 16.7 hits per 60 mins played which is better than any Canucks last year, save for Lockwood who had a tiny sample size and is about 30-40 pounds smaller lol. Aston-Reese & Lazar would give the Canucks two big, physical players on the 4th line who can also PK - Aston-Reese was a key part of Penguins' 3rd place PK last year before he got traded. Whether Joshua, Lockwood, Hoglander or another UFA filled that line, it'd be 2/3rs pretty solid IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got the Babych Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I don’t think he’s coming here, but i’ve heard that once this guy gets signed, the JT deal will be imminent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Got the Babych said: I don’t think he’s coming here, but i’ve heard that once this guy gets signed, the JT deal will be imminent Can't believe this thread almost made it to 10 posts without being JT Miller related. Sad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Big pass on Reese 29, 6'0, LD, he has had lots of injuries except last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Don’t mind him as a cheap depth signing Edited July 30, 2022 by canuck73_3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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