wallstreetamigo Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 16 hours ago, AK_19 said: I'm not a fan of Benning but I think people forget how he sounded like when he first joined our team: I didn't think he was as bad with pressers until further into his tenure. This is not to say that Allvin will have similar problems just that its best not to judge just based on their demeanour in pressers. He wasn’t as bad but man he was always pretty appallingly bad at pressers you gotta admit. Watching some of these shows just how little actual plan he had the last few years. Everything was reactionary it seemed. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 9 hours ago, lmm said: After next draft sounds about right, But they could sign Phil Kessel to a 6x6 contract tomorrow and the judgement would start with that. not making moves buys them some time, But if the first and second big moves are bad there is no use waiting Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Muttley said: I'm not going to disparage the previous regime, (one man show), except to say it would appear that the more chins grown does not necessarily translate into a successful progression as a GM. Actually, he did some great work but his obsessions finally caught up to him. Beyond me that he couldn't see that Green was losing the room. Nice to have a G-M who looks like he hits the G-YM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 One thing that I feel is a plus. Getting Lazar and Mikhayev possible means Miller doesn't need to PK, hopefully it will show in his PP and 5-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienhuggyflow Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 1:44 PM, VancouverHabitant said: Yeah, I will wait to see what happens with Bo and JT. If we get both of them back on long term deals for 15 mil combined, I will be a happy camper.... Otherwise I want to see some premium pieces coming back. 30th overall pick is not a premium piece btw. Agreed. Trading a superstar is what rebuilding teams do. This team has shown they deserve to be given every weapon available to win. I can't get in line with thinking what the contract will look like in 6 years, when we have a team full of players entering their prime over the next 3 years. Sign them both to max term to save some dollars on the cap and keep the core intact. Pens have 3 guys that will be older than JT is on an 8 year deal, Caps will probably as well. It's not some radical thing to have a guy produce at 36-38, plus by then the cap might be 100 million or the world might be an apocalyptic wasteland resembling Edmonton in the winter. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFerguson Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 21 hours ago, Jaimito said: You mean like this? Should've stopped listening before trading Virtanen was brought up... Man, it would've been great to deal him in hindsight...for anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, TFerguson said: Should've stopped listening before trading Virtanen was brought up... Man, it would've been great to deal him in hindsight...for anything. In hindsight, people will often say anything to make themselves look smarter than in the past. Had Virtanen worked out and became a superstar, passing him on would make people point the finger at the GMs who passed him by. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I always recll when Virtanen first arrived at Rogers. Alext Burows who had been working out at the gym remarked " I don't know maybe he'll get it some day" For me that was the kiss of death 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 23 hours ago, Jaimito said: You mean like this? Wow, the years were sure hard on Big Jim Benning. (What an amateur hour that first one was; compare to JR & Co.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 11:33 AM, Canuck You said: Personally, I like this new regime..It's refreshing and feels like we finally have people with proper experience running the show. As long as they don't ever start listening to the idiot fan base and media. Just stick to doing what they do best. We can do without that stupidity of that for a change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Goal:thecup said: Wow, the years were sure hard on Big Jim Benning. (What an amateur hour that first one was; compare to JR & Co.) Yeah they were especially hard on him, as they would be for most people who show up here to canucksville. Having to deal with the most pathetic, stupid, clueless fans in the entire league and media even worse. Same ones who think they have a clue about hockey, try and criticize others is f'n hilarious! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 12:53 PM, canucklehead44 said: GMJB was exciting - I remember he made four big trades over a two day period. His first three trades were good, then 13 out of his next 15 trades were kinda bad (Bieksa for a 2nd was good, and Shinkaruk for Granlund wasn't bad although Granlund was the epitomy of mediocrity). After that his trades were pretty good for the most part but his signings and cap management became abysmal. Regardless, he was certainly not idle handed but he seemed to lack direction. Also he almost avoided developing players like the plague. Our prospects mostly developed in NCAA or Europe and he kept trying to acquire old prospects to jump right into the NHL. Guys that we did develop were let go pretty quick. I think if he just focused on player development instead of knee jerk trades and expensive signings to fill secondary holes he would have been a decent GM. Did you ever stop to think about exactly where we were as a team when JB showed up and had to do two jobs at the time, can you tell me what those two jobs were? Then I'll ask you the last question and then followed by what would you have done is his place. This is a question I've posed to more than a few posters and still haven't got a single right reply YET.. As many idiot fans in Vancouver as there are, which are a lot. There's smart ones in the minority that I've seen who don't simply Parrott what they read from our local bush league media and have insightful things to say thankfully. I don't know why people can't look at the big picture for themselves and draw their own conclusions, it baffles me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, iceman64 said: Did you ever stop to think about exactly where we were as a team when JB showed up and had to do two jobs at the time, can you tell me what those two jobs were? Then I'll ask you the last question and then followed by what would you have done is his place. This is a question I've posed to more than a few posters and still haven't got a single right reply YET.. As many idiot fans in Vancouver as there are, which are a lot. There's smart ones in the minority that I've seen who don't simply Parrott what they read from our local bush league media and have insightful things to say thankfully. I don't know why people can't look at the big picture for themselves and draw their own conclusions, it baffles me. Why bother about a scout that went way over his head? Benning should have stayed at scout level. Edited August 5, 2022 by Timråfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Why bother about a scout that went way over his head? Benning should have stayed at scout level. Won a cup as an assistant GM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Won a cup as an assistant GM. Doesn’t say much. It seems like it made the situation worse. Some people just don’t have ”it”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 5 hours ago, iceman64 said: Did you ever stop to think about exactly where we were as a team when JB showed up and had to do two jobs at the time, can you tell me what those two jobs were? Then I'll ask you the last question and then followed by what would you have done is his place. This is a question I've posed to more than a few posters and still haven't got a single right reply YET.. As many idiot fans in Vancouver as there are, which are a lot. There's smart ones in the minority that I've seen who don't simply Parrott what they read from our local bush league media and have insightful things to say thankfully. I don't know why people can't look at the big picture for themselves and draw their own conclusions, it baffles me. Most can only see the trees. Only a small percentage see the forest as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 22 hours ago, Goal:thecup said: What an amateur hour that first one was; compare to JR & Co. JR and company are still looking to ice the team that Benning built, the only notable addition to date is Mikheyev so not a lot of reason for optimism with this roster quite yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 7:53 PM, Jaimito said: You mean like this? Comparing this to the first vid, being the GM of the Canucks really ages you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GB5 said: JR and company are still looking to ice the team that Benning built, the only notable addition to date is Mikheyev so not a lot of reason for optimism with this roster quite yet. Don’t write off Kuzmenko or Lazar or the addition of Rathbone. This team is pretty much a shoe in to make the playoffs. Is this team in the same league as the Avs or the Bolts, not yet, but this team certainly has the potential to grow into a top contender with patience and an addition or three over the next couple of years. Edited August 6, 2022 by spur1 Finish post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: Doesn’t say much. It seems like it made the situation worse. Some people just don’t have ”it”. No, it says he won a cup as an assistant GM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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