VanCan2023 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, guntrix said: Gretzky. So we can finally see the huge difference between playing in the high scoring 70s/80s/90s and playing in today's NHL. Not sure Gretzky is the best player ever. I guess you could add Lemieux, Messier, Bossy, etc to that list as they played then to. So who is the best now then? Who or what determines the time period we should judge being the best? There is no right answer. Jordan was Basketball god and jesus plus, plus years ago. But he vs. Lebron in a one on one now? Give me a break. Bottom line I look at who ruled there sport the most, and still does. NOBODY I repeat NOBODY has ruled there sport more the Gretzky has, not even close. I mean take away all his goals and he still has more assists than no.2 has total points. His career points ppg are still untouchable. Football, baseball, basketball, all have ledgends but there all close points and or statistics, one has more this the other more that and controversy begins. Gretzky has ruled his sport like no other done and done. For some reason there are some that still try to think otherwise or just not willing to accept it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J-23 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Too hard to pick one. Gretzky Bure Bertuzzi Niedermayer Stevens Prime Iginla Prime Lecavalier Pronger Shanahan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCan2023 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, J-23 said: Too hard to pick one. Gretzky Bure Bertuzzi Niedermayer Stevens Prime Iginla Prime Lecavalier Pronger Shanahan What about imo the best "overall" defenceman ever Nicklas Lidstrom. Through in countryman and ex nuck Ohlund and JT is all yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 hours ago, LTC123 said: Shane Churla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, VanCan2023 said: I guess you could add Lemieux, Messier, Bossy, etc to that list as they played then to. So who is the best now then? Who or what determines the time period we should judge being the best? There is no right answer. Jordan was Basketball god and jesus plus, plus years ago. But he vs. Lebron in a one on one now? Give me a break. Bottom line I look at who ruled there sport the most, and still does. NOBODY I repeat NOBODY has ruled there sport more the Gretzky has, not even close. I mean take away all his goals and he still has more assists than no.2 has total points. His career points ppg are still untouchable. Football, baseball, basketball, all have ledgends but there all close points and or statistics, one has more this the other more that and controversy begins. Gretzky has ruled his sport like no other done and done. For some reason there are some that still try to think otherwise or just not willing to accept it. Sure, we could add them to that list too. But Gretzky would be especially interesting given the points you made. It's not about proclaiming x period as better than y period. It's about acknowledging that certain periods were much more high scoring and that, therefore, points should be prorated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 58 minutes ago, VanCan2023 said: What about imo the best "overall" defenceman ever Nicklas Lidstrom. Through in countryman and ex nuck Ohlund and JT is all yours. Gimme Larry Robinson or Denis Potvin first. Lidstrom was good but for me overall includes some physicality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Colt 45s Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Canucks player: Pavel Bure. Reason why I chose him has to do with the old two line pass rule. Many of his rushes were negated by that rule. I believe that with the ability to create extra space today, he could have hit 75-80 goals a season because no one would be able to catch him. Another aspect is this: In his era there were no rules about clutching and grabbing, and tossing someone into the boards vulnerably. In today's NHL, with his advanced puck handling skills and the new protections he could have had a longer career. Lest the local media being the dearth of great Canuck players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 16 hours ago, Alflives said: Pavel Bure would destroy the league now. No hooking or holding to slow him up, would result in him putting up 70+ each year. Could be fun to see him out skate McDiver, and then crush him... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermette9 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 100 % Russian rocket . Would be unreal. He scored 60 in the clutch h and grab Era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 17 hours ago, 4petesake said: Outside the box a little but I’d love to see Rick Rypien play today without having to face all the goons and gladiators. With all the expansion teams, every team would love a guy who works as hard as Rick did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 15 hours ago, brilac said: Guy Lafleur! Do I need to say more? He was so awesome! Guy would be interesting but he'd have to have quit smoking. I went with Beliveau because he was 6'3" and 205 lbs in in prime. Like Lemeiux both had the right frame for today's hockey. Beliveau on his 19th season, at the age of 39 scored more than a point a game in the regular season and the playoffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 16 hours ago, EddieVedder said: How are we missing Jagr? Jagr is possibly the greatest winger of all time. Kariyas hockey IQ was unmatched and he had so much natural talent, ability and athleticism. He was, his numbers speak for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Jagr is still playing so he doesn't count. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Eric Lindross. He had the potential to be one of the best ever. He would be an absolute monster today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baratheon Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: If not him then my second choice is Matt Barnaby! Kids today complain about players being rats but they don't even know the meaning of the word. Barnaby would be an eye opener and a half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 All day ... every day ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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