drofssalg Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Per Elliotte Friedman Lawson Crouse has re-signed for 5 years in Arizone. AAV of 4.3. It would seem Arizona is having to pay a bit of a premium to keep players. I would say that Crouse is certainly not a 4.3 a year player at the moment. Bad team in a crappy rink can't be very easy to attract players at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Good deal for the Coyotes. Crouse is a very good younger player who is worth more. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 bargain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I mean they have to sign and play at least a few actual NHL level players so why not Crouse, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 AZ sure takes alot of a heat for a team who actively tries to add all the expensive / overpaid talent in the and still manages to finish ahead of the most overhyped / highest payroll team the Habs lmfao AZ > Mtl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 They gotta pay someone, good for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 34 minutes ago, Alflives said: Good deal for the Coyotes. Crouse is a very good younger player who is worth more. good trade piece for them now that he's locked in. AZ should just play on paper, or run it using EA gaming platform and save everyone the travel time. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Crouse is a player I've wanted on the Canucks for a while. Good for him for landing a big long term deal. Too bad it's the Coyotes though lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drofssalg Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 I think Crouse has potential so I am curious to see as the talent improves around him how his game progresses. Arizona certainly needs to be able to find ways to retain their good young players. I don't think Crouse is worth 4.3 today but that contract could quickly become a bargain as the team improves. I really feel badly for the players in Arizona. I am still surprised the NHL has given the Arizona experiment so much time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverHabitant Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Ilya Mikeyev > Lawson Crouse I think both guys are slightly overpaid by today's prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, VancouverHabitant said: Ilya Mikeyev > Lawson Crouse I think both guys are slightly overpaid by today's prices Two different types of players. I’d say a better comparison to Crouse would be Josh Anderson in Montreal. And Crouse comes in on a far better number. Anderson is a toxic contract. Crouse and Mikeyev are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverHabitant Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Two different types of players. I’d say a better comparison to Crouse would be Josh Anderson in Montreal. And Crouse comes in on a far better number. Anderson is a toxic contract. Crouse and Mikeyev are not. I know they're different types of players. I just think there's far better bargains to be had out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I know they're different types of players. I just think there's far better bargains to be had out there. Well Alf is pointing out that Mikeyev is a great player and isn’t comparable to Crouse. And that Josh Anderson is a much better comparable. And that Crouse is a steal of a deal compared to the anchor contract of Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverHabitant Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Well Alf is pointing out that Mikeyev is a great player and isn’t comparable to Crouse. And that Josh Anderson is a much better comparable. And that Crouse is a steal of a deal compared to the anchor contract of Anderson. Fair enough, 20 goals will be the bar that's set for all three of them. Crouse used to be a fighter and more physical so be brings some of that.... Same goes for Anderson. Mikeyev should be good defensively and on the PK. 15 goals and below will be a disappointment, 25 goals and more will make any of them into a good contract for me. I think all three might end up in that 15-25 murky middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, VancouverHabitant said: Fair enough, 20 goals will be the bar that's set for all three of them. Crouse used to be a fighter and more physical so be brings some of that.... Same goes for Anderson. Mikeyev should be good defensively and on the PK. 15 goals and below will be a disappointment, 25 goals and more will make any of them into a good contract for me. I think all three might end up in that 15-25 murky middle. Fact. Crouse is better than Anderson. Fact. Mikeyev is better than Crouse. Fact. Anderson is an anchor contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Crouse is a player I've wanted on the Canucks for a while. Good for him for landing a big long term deal. Too bad it's the Coyotes though lol. We’ll send Dickinson and one of Pearson or Poolman and take Crouse back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) Using $100K per point as a baseline, in terms of points over 82 games he is at 43, actual 34, and average 26 over 82. This contract is what I would consider fair but at the higher end of his value (IE what he would have signed for likely as a UFA). Mikheyev is a good comp. 4.75M - last year 50 points/82 games, 32 actual, 40 over 82 average. Crouse is younger, bigger, and on the upswing vs Mikheyev in the middle of his prime, a bit older, but better penalty killer. Edited August 8, 2022 by canucklehead44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 why on earth would a young player like Crouse, who a lot of teams would be after, give away 3 UFA years to ARZ. Questionable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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