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3 minutes ago, Googlie said:

Interesting article by Wagner  .....

 

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/which-line-combinations-worked-best-for-the-canucks-last-season-5674026

 

I was disappointed that Bruce broke up the Hoagie-Petey-Podz line - it was exciting to watch, and per these stats, very effective

Hogs had a serious injury that very much hampered his skating.  He’s all fixed up now, so we will likely see Boudreau using Hogs a lot.  

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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Hogs had a serious injury that very much hampered his skating.  He’s all fixed up now, so we will likely see Boudreau using Hogs a lot.  

One would hope so, but we have a plethora of forwards so it might be hard for him to even make the roster.

 

(And Winnipeg has a huge pipeline of defencemen, so they would seem to be a natural trade partner)

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7 minutes ago, Googlie said:

One would hope so, but we have a plethora of forwards so it might be hard for him to even make the roster.

 

(And Winnipeg has a huge pipeline of defencemen, so they would seem to be a natural trade partner)

True, and Hogs (given a healthy start to the season) will build his trade value. 

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3 hours ago, Googlie said:

Interesting article by Wagner  .....

 

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/which-line-combinations-worked-best-for-the-canucks-last-season-5674026

 

I was disappointed that Bruce broke up the Hoagie-Petey-Podz line - it was exciting to watch, and per these stats, very effective

interesting article, but I think the additions of Mikheyev and Kuzmeko kind of blow these combo's up. 

 

Mikheyev did really well with Marner and Tavares - maybe Bruce tries Mikheyev-Miller-Petey?

 

Kuzmenko-Bo-Podz would be a line I'd like to se them try as well. 

 

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I'm assuming they're done doing anything, except maybe trading Garland.

 

My guess. 

 

Pettersson - Miller - Boeser

Kuzmenko - Horvat - Podkolzin

Pearson - Lazar - Mikheyev

Dickinson - Joshua - Lockwood

Hoglander

 

OEL - Severson

Hughes - Schenn

Rathbone - Myers

Dermott - Burroughs

 

LTIR - Ferland, Poolman

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On 8/9/2022 at 6:47 PM, Googlie said:

One would hope so, but we have a plethora of forwards so it might be hard for him to even make the roster.

 

(And Winnipeg has a huge pipeline of defencemen, so they would seem to be a natural trade partner)

Would you swap hoglander for Logan Stanley, similar cap hits both Rfas at the same time? 

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On 8/9/2022 at 4:09 PM, NUCKER67 said:

I'm assuming they're done doing anything, except maybe trading Garland.

 

My guess. 

 

Pettersson - Miller - Boeser

Kuzmenko - Horvat - Podkolzin

Pearson - Lazar - Mikheyev

Dickinson - Joshua - Lockwood

Hoglander

 

OEL - Severson

Hughes - Schenn

Rathbone - Myers

Dermott - Burroughs

 

LTIR - Ferland, Poolman

Nah, Boudreau likes his 3 deep Centres. Until JTM is traded he will run Miller, Pettersson and Horvat.

 

Mikheyev - Miller - Boeser

Kuzmenko - Pettersson - Podkolkin

Hoglander - Horvat - Garland

Pearson - Lazar - Joshua

 

Myers played like a top 4 D under Boudreau 

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3 hours ago, Pure961089 said:

Nah, Boudreau likes his 3 deep Centres. Until JTM is traded he will run Miller, Pettersson and Horvat.

 

Mikheyev - Miller - Boeser

Kuzmenko - Pettersson - Podkolkin

Hoglander - Horvat - Garland

Pearson - Lazar - Joshua

 

Myers played like a top 4 D under Boudreau 

He did move guys around but also stacked things up down the stretch and when he did we kept climbing so im not so sure.    It will be tough to predict what he does with his new toys.  

 

Ilya M ... he worries me ... is he as good as Hyman who TO fans loved ... i don't think so (anyways yet).    Anyone who plays with some of the best in the world, their stats get a big bump.    I do like his hustle...hope our pro scouting didn't sh!t the bed with that one.   CHI used to pump out guys like crazy that left and became underwhelming.   

 

Anyways guess we find out.   Obviously management liked Podz and is making things a little easier for him.  I do too. 

 

As for your lines ... Pearson won't get bumped by Hogs.   Doubt it.   Garland could get bumped by Podz.    Actually think Brock is going to be trade bait this year so do see him getting top minutes.  His 5 x 5 time well, just sucked last year. Garlands not at all.   And he's much cheaper.   Bruce is the bomb so pretty sure he works with these guys and likes what he's got to work with. 

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8 hours ago, UKNuck96 said:

Would you swap hoglander for Logan Stanley, similar cap hits both Rfas at the same time? 

Much as I love Hoagie, I'd do that trade.  Imagine Stanley and Myers as the shut down pair for the next 2 years!!  (Move OEL to right D to partner Hughes, and Schenn looking after Bones)   Stanley is a left hand shot, but did he play any right D?

 

But if Mgmt is going to really be analytics-driven they'll tell Bruce to keep that Pearson-Horvat-Hoglander line together.  Zero goals against 5 v 5 when playing as a line (sure, goals for wasn't there, but that will change in an heartbeat if Hoagie finds the target)

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9 hours ago, Pure961089 said:

Nah, Boudreau likes his 3 deep Centres. Until JTM is traded he will run Miller, Pettersson and Horvat.

 

Mikheyev - Miller - Boeser

Kuzmenko - Pettersson - Podkolkin

Hoglander - Horvat - Garland

Pearson - Lazar - Joshua

 

Myers played like a top 4 D under Boudreau 

Probably flip Pearson and hoglander and your pretty close.  May also see Dickinson on the 4th line as well.  We have some serious forward depth.

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Kuzmenko - Miller - Podkolzin

Hoglander - Pettersson - Boeser

Mikheyev - Horvat - Garland

Pearson - Joshua - Lazar

Dickinson / Lockwood

 

OEL - Myers

Hughes - Schenn

Dermott - Poolman

Burroughs

 

My guess is Rathbone starts in the AHL unless there's a trade involving one of our D. The top three lines are interchangeable so it's almost like we three first / second lines.

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3 hours ago, IBatch said:

He did move guys around but also stacked things up down the stretch and when he did we kept climbing so im not so sure.    It will be tough to predict what he does with his new toys.  

Bruce has commented that there were players that lacked chemistry with teammates, so I expect he will change the

lines a lot in the early part of the season.  The outcome may surprise all of us.

 

3 hours ago, IBatch said:

Ilya M ... he worries me ... is he as good as Hyman who TO fans loved ... i don't think so (anyways yet).    Anyone who plays with some of the best in the world, their stats get a big bump.    I do like his hustle...hope our pro scouting didn't sh!t the bed with that one.   CHI used to pump out guys like crazy that left and became underwhelming.   

Fortunately, I don't think Mik played a lot with TOs top 6.  He made up the (3rd)shutdown line with Kampf and Engvall.

If he plays in the Canucks top 6, he will score the goals.  His defensive acumen, size and speed makes him a

valuable player for the team.  He will also improve the PK mightily. I believe he will fulfill a role on our team that

has been missing for some time.  Kind of a Bur without the pest.

3 hours ago, IBatch said:

Anyways guess we find out.   Obviously management liked Podz and is making things a little easier for him.  I do too. 

 

As for your lines ... Pearson won't get bumped by Hogs.   Doubt it.   Garland could get bumped by Podz.    Actually think Brock is going to be trade bait this year so do see him getting top minutes.  His 5 x 5 time well, just sucked last year. Garlands not at all.   And he's much cheaper.   Bruce is the bomb so pretty sure he works with these guys and likes what he's got to work with. 

I agree about Pears.  People really underestimate his overall game and great chemistry with Bo or Miller.

 

Garland's a keeper (unless he can return a top 4 RD in a trade).

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I'd like to see Bruce roll 3 lines, we were at our best when Petey ran his own line.

 

Garland - Pettersson - Podkolzin

Kuzmenko - Miller - Mikheyev

Pearson - Horvat - Boeser

Joshua - Lazar - Hoglander

 

Spoilt for choices. One of those forwards will surely be traded, moving Lockwood up and Hoglander into the top 9, but can't really lose. Bruce will move those top 9 wingers all over the place to find good combinations.

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I'd like to see a lineup something like this.  Team looks solid.  

 

Mikheyev   Pettersson  Boeser
Podkolzin  Horvat   Kuzmenko
Pearson  Miller  Garland
Joshua  Lazar   Hoglander
               Dickenson, Lockwood  

OEL  Hughes
Rathbone  Myers
Dermot  Schenn
              Burroughs

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Pearson - Miller - Boeser

Kuzmenko - Pettersson - Podkolkin

Mikheyev - Horvat - Garland

Hoglander - Lazar - Joshua

Hughes- Schenn
OEL - de Haan
Dermott - Myers
*Rathbone

My guess is Poolman gets bought out, saving 1.3m in cap space, Dickinson gets bought out to save 1.7. Rathbone gets sheltered minutes this year, and is called up 1st in the event of injury. 

de Haan is a better partner for OEL, with far better shutdown stats than anyone on our roster (high danger scoring chances against / 60 minutes). 

Next year, Schenn moves on, since Dermott and de Haan can both play right or left side, a spot is opened up for Rathbone. 

 

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Based on current roster since I don't want to speculate based on potential trades:

 

Pearson Miller Boeser

Garland Pettersson Mikheyev

Podkolzin Horvat Kuzmenko

Hoglander Lazar Dickenson

Joshua, Lockwood

 

Hughes Schenn

OEL  Myers

Dermott Poolman

Rathbone Burroughs

 

Demko

Macintyre

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On 8/9/2022 at 11:36 AM, Googlie said:

Interesting article by Wagner  .....

 

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/which-line-combinations-worked-best-for-the-canucks-last-season-5674026

 

I was disappointed that Bruce broke up the Hoagie-Petey-Podz line - it was exciting to watch, and per these stats, very effective

If there's anything I got from that graph it's that Boeser appears to drag down all of his lines. 

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24 minutes ago, AK_19 said:

If there's anything I got from that graph it's that Boeser appears to drag down all of his lines. 

Yeah -  that was my takeaway also.

 

But conversely, any center/RW pairing performed best with Pearson as their left winger.  He might be the true "unsung hero" of the Canucks

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