rekker Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, EP Phone Home said: I believe he signed with the NYR. Gotcha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 41 minutes ago, Alflives said: Vegas is done for. Calgary got way worse. We are at worst second in our division. It’s time to go all in. Extend Miller! Alf that’s not like you. Calgary and Vegas weren’t the biggest issues. We aren’t competitive with the Colorado’s or TBs of the league is the issue. At what point does Eichel look in the mirror after another year out of the playoffs and say, “maybe I am the issue?” I suspect too much of a narcissist to ever see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Hockey Gods don't like Shiny Gold Helmets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Can we all just take a moment and appreciate how much worst the West has gotten. I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, mll said: St Louis no longer has Husso - they would be left without a starter if they trade Binnington. Hart is Philadelphia's starter. Fedotov has been forced into military service. Bobrovsky is 10M for 4 years - Lehner is only out for this season. Lehner's agent tweets a picture of Lehner with a sword through him saying "Bobrovsky"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Imagine if they swoop for Kadri with the extra cap space...then try and trade one of their forwards for a goalie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, mll said: Before Lehner's injury they only had 2M to extend Hague and would have had to go with a roster of 21 if he accepted 2M. Adding Lehner on LTIR gives them now 7M with a roster of 19 and still Hague to sign and in need of a starting goalie. They can go acquire a guy like James Reimer from SJ. A $2.25M cap hit, played 48 games last year with better numbers than Lehner on a crappier team. SJ is carrying 3 goalies right now and are likely gonna lean on Kahkonen much more this coming year anyways. Reimer also only has 1 year on his deal before UFA, so perfect. So before Lehner went on LTIR, they would extend Hague at $2M. So $7M for Lehner and Hague. After Lehner goes on LTIR, they extend Hague at $2M, bring in Reimer at $2.25M, and acquire JT Miller at $2.625M (50% retained). Now they have a goalie that put up better numbers on a crappier team last year in Reimer. They also bring in a 99pt top tier centre in his prime. And they still re-signed Hague as they would have before. I'm not sure how much more clear I gotta be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, VegasCanuck said: I don't think there's a maximum... There is nothing that prevents teams from adding every single guy injuried till the playoffs start? I know Tampa rolled with like 100m worth of guys but I thought you could only add X amount during the off season. Like 10m worth. I'm probably out to lunch and just hopeful that's the case lol. Flawwwwed as hell if not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Vegas is done for. Calgary got way worse. We are at worst second in our division. It’s time to go all in. Extend Miller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Slipped on a cracker? Bitten by poisonous snake while on vacation in a Scandinavian country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, HKSR said: They can go acquire a guy like James Reimer from SJ. A $2.25M cap hit, played 48 games last year with better numbers than Lehner on a crappier team. SJ is carrying 3 goalies right now and are likely gonna lean on Kahkonen much more this coming year anyways. Reimer also only has 1 year on his deal before UFA, so perfect. So before Lehner went on LTIR, they would extend Hague at $2M. So $7M for Lehner and Hague. After Lehner goes on LTIR, they extend Hague at $2M, bring in Reimer at $2.25M, and acquire JT Miller at $2.625M (50% retained). Now they have a goalie that put up better numbers on a crappier team last year in Reimer. They also bring in a 99pt top tier centre in his prime. And they still re-signed Hague as they would have before. I'm not sure how much more clear I gotta be. Cool story bro, but…. 1) JT is not going anywhere 2) JT is not going anywhere 3) JT is not going anywhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, HKSR said: They don't need to. Like I mentioned to mll, they could downgrade slightly on Lehner and save a lot of cap in that area while adding someone like JT Miller or even Nazem Kadri. To me, the downgrade in goal would be worth the huge upgrade up front given Lehner isn't that spectacular to begin with. Even with Lehner on IR they can't afford to bring in Kadri. They don't really have the assets to get someone like Miller, especially at 50% retained. The likely scenario is they get a goalie worse than Lehner, then use the difference in cap for a marginal upgrade at forward. Not an advantageous position for Vegas to be in. I'd consider their playoff odds to have gotten worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Andrew Hammond, welcome to Vegas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, JM_ said: Andrew Hammond, welcome to Vegas. I suppose he's only got a PTO with Florida. They could offer him a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: I suppose he's only got a PTO with Florida. They could offer him a contract. yep, chuck 1.5 to 2 mil at him and call it a day. They need someone to hold the fort until Brossoit is ready. I can see them running this, um, tandem? this year because they have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 They could go with Holtby for 12 months and make a trade for a prospect in goal as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Even with Lehner on IR they can't afford to bring in Kadri. They don't really have the assets to get someone like Miller, especially at 50% retained. The likely scenario is they get a goalie worse than Lehner, then use the difference in cap for a marginal upgrade at forward. Not an advantageous position for Vegas to be in. I'd consider their playoff odds to have gotten worse. Maybe, but a package of Chandler Stephenson, Lukas Cormier/Nic Hague, and a 1st round pick for JT Miller with no retention would have my full attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, mll said: They can use off-season LTIR. Daly confirmed that it was possible - Toronto used it a few years back. Btw off-season cap space isn't calculated like in season cap space. In the off-season every player under contract is back on the NHL roster. CapFriendly doesn't bother with it as it's too tedious and they are focusing at the opening night roster for cap compliance. Players on 2-ways are counted on the pro-rata of the days they were on the NHL roster the previous season, 1-way deals are counted in full even if the player is expected to be in the AHL etc. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, UKNuck96 said: They could go with Holtby for 12 months and make a trade for a prospect in goal as well? I think Holtby's injured for most of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I think Holtby's injured for most of the year? Forgot about that, just assumed would be ready for start of season and forgot it’s likely he’s done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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