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46 minutes ago, JM_ said:

I don't understand why we're moving Rathbone for Sandin? Bone has a much higher offensive potential and also not due a raise. 

 

Why are we losing Schenn to make it happen? 

I'm not saying I would be for or against this trade, but my belief is two-fold:

1) We really don't know what we have with Rathbone yet. Plus Sandin showed better offensive ability last season and may be due for a breakout season.

2) Sandin has proven himself one of Toronto's best defensive defensemen. He faltered a little last season in an effort to get more points, but generally he's very solid defensively - at least against lesser competition. I think he would currently fit in a #3 or #4 role on our team, with a possible potential of being the #2 complementary player for Hughes that we've been lacking since Tanev left. 

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I don't think an unnsigned Sandin has close to that value.  Marino is a better player, is cost controlled to a team friendly deal and still got traded for scraps and cap space.

We can find a Sandin equivalent on the open market next summer for no assets in return.  He just isn't good enough, or a good enough fit to warrant spending any trade bullets on in my opinion.  We can sign a guy like De Haan for low dollars and only a year term as a bandaid.

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3 hours ago, kloubek said:

I'm not saying I would be for or against this trade, but my belief is two-fold:

1) We really don't know what we have with Rathbone yet. Plus Sandin showed better offensive ability last season and may be due for a breakout season.

2) Sandin has proven himself one of Toronto's best defensive defensemen. He faltered a little last season in an effort to get more points, but generally he's very solid defensively - at least against lesser competition. I think he would currently fit in a #3 or #4 role on our team, with a possible potential of being the #2 complementary player for Hughes that we've been lacking since Tanev left. 

seems like a lateral move and we're losing right side depth with Schenn. Not sure I see the upside. 

 

TO needs some LTIR, lets trade them Ferland and Poolman instead :P

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7 hours ago, JM_ said:

seems like a lateral move and we're losing right side depth with Schenn. Not sure I see the upside. 

 

TO needs some LTIR, lets trade them Ferland and Poolman instead :P

That'd be nice. :)

 

The upside would depend on what kind of game Sandin comes with next season. I truly believe he is blossoming, but have been wrong before. 

 

I think management believes in Rathbone, and I agree with you that he may have the higher ceiling... as well as your comment about Schenn, who I love for everything he brings at his paycheque. We'd be even smaller without him, and I think he had a very solid season for us.

 

In the end, I wouldn't do this trade either. 

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5 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Increasing his value and earning him a call up.

I believe, based on his 1-way contract, that management believes he will likely be capable of the 3LD role out of the gate. Training camp will play the biggest part in the decision, but I expect to see him in our opening lineup unless Dermott progressed himself well in the offseason.

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3 hours ago, kloubek said:

I believe, based on his 1-way contract, that management believes he will likely be capable of the 3LD role out of the gate. Training camp will play the biggest part in the decision, but I expect to see him in our opening lineup unless Dermott progressed himself well in the offseason.

Well his offensive skills were very evident last year. But his defensive skills seemed a little weak. If he can strengthen his gap closure and have more board battle energy that would help his game a lot. If he does get a few games he's going to be behind 2 players for any pp time.

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50 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Well his offensive skills were very evident last year. But his defensive skills seemed a little weak. If he can strengthen his gap closure and have more board battle energy that would help his game a lot. If he does get a few games he's going to be behind 2 players for any pp time.

He wouldn't be the first player in the NHL to have strong offensive skills, but questionable defense. I'm quite confident that despite a lack of points in the NHL games that he's played that he will be capable of being a reasonable offensive performer. But yes, it's that defense which has caused questions for him and will ultimately be what sets his ceiling.

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14 hours ago, Odjick 4 Premier said:

Sandin is farther in his development then Rathbone 

That is the same argument that was made for Linden Vey and Sven Bearcheese.

 

I would rather develop from within which also allows for three years of ELC. If this team were competing for the cup you make make these deals but they are not there right now.

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