AngryElf Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) Taking a break from the Miller trade threads, I was wondering if the Isles would entertain a 1 for 1 swap of Cal Clutterbuck for Tanner Pearson? (LW) Pearson, 30 - 2x3.25 Million, had 14 goals and 24 assists for 34 points last year in 68 games. Defensively responsible and consistent player who was a mainstay with Horvat on the second or third line in a shutdown role. Provides decent physicality but is better used as two-way option alongside Barzal and Bailey or Pageau and Wahlstrom. He is also a coaches favourite when the opponents net is empty. (RW) Clutterbuck, 34 - 2x1.75 Million, had 6 goals and 9 assists for 15 points in 59 games. Is not a real offensive option but knows his role as a 4th Line grinder. Provides a more meat and potatoes style of play that the Canucks sorely lack. Mikheyev - Petey - Podz Kuzmenko - Miller - Boeser Hoglander - Horvat - Garland Joshua - Lazar - Clutterbuck Beauvillier - Nelson - Palmieri Lee - Barzal - Bailey Pearson - Pageau - Wahlstrom Martin - Cizikas - Parise Islanders take on another 1.5 Million in cap but get better to do so, pushing 38 year old Parise to less important 4th line duties so he's not expected to replicate last season. Canucks get much tougher and give Hoglander a permanent spot in the top nine to prove that he's capable of playing in his own end. They also gain cap space but lose a strong two-way player to do it. The $1.5 million difference doesn't impact the Isles ability to sign Barzal (who won't get a massive increase on his current deal), but it does help the Canucks retain Miller and some of their other talent. Let me know what you think Edit: Apologies for the wrong section, been a long week. Edited August 26, 2022 by AngryElf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 if we were getting Clusterbuck + a pick back it might be worth considering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryElf Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, JM_ said: if we were getting Clusterbuck + a pick back it might be worth considering. We've seen the cost to unload cap, and the fact is that we're gaining a significant amount of capspace in this deal for a Miller contract. If we do get a pick, it won't be higher than a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, AngryElf said: We've seen the cost to unload cap, and the fact is that we're gaining a significant amount of capspace in this deal for a Miller contract. If we do get a pick, it won't be higher than a 5th. I was thinking maybe a 3rd? The one bonus of Clutterbuck would be that we could bury most of his salary as well. From a cap management pov this trade idea is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryElf Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, JM_ said: I was thinking maybe a 3rd? The one bonus of Clutterbuck would be that we could bury most of his salary as well. From a cap management pov this trade idea is good. Pearson, 2023 5th for Clutterbuck, 2024 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 Pearson is criminally underrated here.......not saying clutterbuck wouldn't be a nice add, but not for Pearson. TP can play on any line, in any situation.......that's a lot more valuable than clutterbuck, imo 1 3 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, AngryElf said: Pearson, 2023 5th for Clutterbuck, 2024 3rd? that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, stawns said: Pearson is criminally underrated here.......not saying clutterbuck wouldn't be a nice add, but not for Pearson. TP can play on any line, in any situation.......that's a lot more valuable than clutterbuck, imo I think you misunderstand, he's in a lot of deals because he is still useful, and the cap hit isn't massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I thought this was a trade for a second 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigTramFan Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rush17 said: I thought this was a trade for a second This should be in the Armchair GM section, not Trades/Rumors/Signings 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I'd actually be okay with this trade. VAN would save some cap, they have plenty of offense as it is, and could use a bit more physicality that Clutterbuck provides. He's only got two years left at a decent cap hit. Clutterbuck and Schenn - bringing you old school toughness that this team has lacked. Throw in Miller's anger (and scoring), Lazar's hometown inspiration to fight for his team, and Dakota Joshua - and the Canucks could be a tough team to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkSave Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Dickinson for Clutterback. Sign me up! I like the proposal for Pearson too though. If we are wanting to move out some cap as the main objective, I think it makes sense. Clutterback brings a lot of sandpaper and would find a home on our 4th line. I do think of all the Canuck Forwards, he is the most likely to be moved since he can play up and down a lineup and only has 2 more years at 3.25per. I could see a team like the Islanders, who had a bad year last year, have interest. Don't forget they lost to TB in the Eastern Final in game 7, 1-0 in 2021. They were close to going to the finals and the makeup of their team is not that different from that club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Clutterbuck is an ass**** Guy almost ended Boeser's career on a deliberate hit launching him toward an open bench door (left open by Virtanen btw). You don't make that guy a teammate. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Not a bad proposal. I would do it for the cap savings, but I'm not sure NYI would. Lou really likes his Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck line, so I don't think he'd split them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryElf Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Rush17 said: I thought this was a trade for a second 55 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: This should be in the Armchair GM section, not Trades/Rumors/Signings Whoopsies lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, fanfor42 said: Clutterbuck is an ass**** Guy almost ended Boeser's career on a deliberate hit launching him toward an open bench door (left open by Virtanen btw). You don't make that guy a teammate. That's what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, AngryElf said: Taking a break from the Miller trade threads, I was wondering if the Isles would entertain a 1 for 1 swap of Cal Clutterbuck for Tanner Pearson? (LW) Pearson, 30 - 2x3.25 Million, had 14 goals and 24 assists for 34 points last year in 68 games. Defensively responsible and consistent player who was a mainstay with Horvat on the second or third line in a shutdown role. Provides decent physicality but is better used as two-way option alongside Barzal and Bailey or Pageau and Wahlstrom. He is also a coaches favourite when the opponents net is empty. (RW) Clutterbuck, 34 - 2x1.75 Million, had 6 goals and 9 assists for 15 points in 59 games. Is not a real offensive option but knows his role as a 4th Line grinder. Provides a more meat and potatoes style of play that the Canucks sorely lack. Mikheyev - Petey - Podz Kuzmenko - Miller - Boeser Hoglander - Horvat - Garland Joshua - Lazar - Clutterbuck Beauvillier - Nelson - Palmieri Lee - Barzal - Bailey Pearson - Pageau - Wahlstrom Martin - Cizikas - Parise Islanders take on another 1.5 Million in cap but get better to do so, pushing 38 year old Parise to less important 4th line duties so he's not expected to replicate last season. Canucks get much tougher and give Hoglander a permanent spot in the top nine to prove that he's capable of playing in his own end. They also gain cap space but lose a strong two-way player to do it. The $1.5 million difference doesn't impact the Isles ability to sign Barzal (who won't get a massive increase on his current deal), but it does help the Canucks retain Miller and some of their other talent. Let me know what you think So, you're proposing a 1 for 1 swap, no other assets, essentially downgrading our middle 6 in exchange for a 4th line grinder? So, just to clarify, you don't work for the Islanders, do you??? I'm not a big fan of moving Pearson, just for the sake of moving Pearson as he is a highly effective player for us, he's just not a flashy player, which many fans on this forum seem to prefer. But, if we needed to move him, maybe something like To NYI Pearson To Vancouver Clutterbuck 2023 3rd round pick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, AngryElf said: Taking a break from the Miller trade threads, I was wondering if the Isles would entertain a 1 for 1 swap of Cal Clutterbuck for Tanner Pearson? (LW) Pearson, 30 - 2x3.25 Million, had 14 goals and 24 assists for 34 points last year in 68 games. Defensively responsible and consistent player who was a mainstay with Horvat on the second or third line in a shutdown role. Provides decent physicality but is better used as two-way option alongside Barzal and Bailey or Pageau and Wahlstrom. He is also a coaches favourite when the opponents net is empty. (RW) Clutterbuck, 34 - 2x1.75 Million, had 6 goals and 9 assists for 15 points in 59 games. Is not a real offensive option but knows his role as a 4th Line grinder. Provides a more meat and potatoes style of play that the Canucks sorely lack. Mikheyev - Petey - Podz Kuzmenko - Miller - Boeser Hoglander - Horvat - Garland Joshua - Lazar - Clutterbuck Beauvillier - Nelson - Palmieri Lee - Barzal - Bailey Pearson - Pageau - Wahlstrom Martin - Cizikas - Parise Islanders take on another 1.5 Million in cap but get better to do so, pushing 38 year old Parise to less important 4th line duties so he's not expected to replicate last season. Canucks get much tougher and give Hoglander a permanent spot in the top nine to prove that he's capable of playing in his own end. They also gain cap space but lose a strong two-way player to do it. The $1.5 million difference doesn't impact the Isles ability to sign Barzal (who won't get a massive increase on his current deal), but it does help the Canucks retain Miller and some of their other talent. Let me know what you think Maybe a few seasons ago. Not now. Pearson still worth more to this team than what Clutterbuck could contribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KirkSave Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 Clutterbuck finished a check that Boeser initiated. There was no intent to injure. Had no idea the door was even opening. It was unfortunate timing. That's it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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