King Heffy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, Kobayashi Maru said: Amazing that if that said 6'0 instead of 5'11 we would be offering the moon for him. He's obviously not a perfect fit for a variety of reasons, but could we move our Vet winger depth to give him a try? What about Pearson and DiPietro for him? Why would we be giving up anything for a defenceman who can't play defence, regardless of size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Googlie said: I'd rather try and get Noah Juulsen ....... oh, wait, we already have him. Juulsen could actually surprise and get some games this season. From the looks of it a fresh start at home has done him well. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Amazing that if that said 6'0 instead of 5'11 we would be offering the moon for him. He's obviously not a perfect fit for a variety of reasons, but could we move our Vet winger depth to give him a try? What about Pearson and DiPietro for him? I don't like 187lbs..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Amazingly....one of the suggested centrepieces of a Miller deal but now available just because. Fancy that He IS an RHD though and will net a decent return from someone, just happy management didn't make a trade involving him just for the sake of making a trade he was never going to be the centrepiece of a Miller deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Juulsen could actually surprise and get some games this season. From the looks of it a fresh start at home has done him well. I liked what I saw last year. Unfortunately he got stuck with Hunt a lot which really wasn't setting him up for success. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Why would we be giving up anything for a defenceman who can't play defence, regardless of size? Sounds like that part of this game has improved and showing a +4 in a very very small sample set makes me think he is not a complete liability at all. DiPietro is essentially nothing, and Pearson on the 4th line is also not what we need. Nothing of significance is lost for a potential lotto ticket prospect. If he doesn't pan out, it's of no loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Dermott>>>Lundqvist Only way this would make sense is if we traded a redundant player like DiPietro. Even then we’d need to slip him through waivers and I doubt he would pass through. You are probably right. I never noticed him in a bad way when he played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, Kobayashi Maru said: Sounds like that part of this game has improved and showing a +4 in a very very small sample set makes me think he is not a complete liability at all. DiPietro is essentially nothing, and Pearson on the 4th line is also not what we need. Nothing of significance is lost for a potential lotto ticket prospect. If he doesn't pan out, it's of no loss. Pearson can still get you something of value instead of this pylon. After seeing him play, he has little to no chance of ever learning how to actually play defence. He's another Pouliot/Hunt/Del Zotto/Larsen. We don't want any more of those guys, especially not at the expense of NHL quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Well no surprise since Canucks didn't trade him for Miller. Pearson? Garland? Hoglander for Lundkvist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Juulsen could actually surprise and get some games this season. From the looks of it a fresh start at home has done him well. Would love Juulsen cracking the big team. Seems he could be the exact piece the defense group needs to round it out. His first offseason being healthy in what I think is 3 years iirc. Don't know much about Lundqvist. Good on PA for holding firm with the Rags though. I bet he knew Lundqvist was already asking out and the Rags tried to play PA a fool. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 They should definitely get something for him. Young RHD are worth the risk. Unfortunately not what Vancouver needs. We have some good puck moving Dman on the team now. We need shut down defensive guys now to partner with Hughes and OEL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, BabychStache said: From an organizational standpoint it makes sense to make a pitch for him, but need to send cap back the other way. Dickinson + 5th for Lundkvist? Need the pick to compensate for the cap dump. I like this deal!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Pearson can still get you something of value instead of this pylon. After seeing him play, he has little to no chance of ever learning how to actually play defence. He's another Pouliot/Hunt/Del Zotto/Larsen. We don't want any more of those guys, especially not at the expense of NHL quality players. Ultimately this comes down to Pearson as DiPietro won't get us anything in return. I think it's a safe bet that Pearson would be worth around a 3rd rounder, so the question becomes would you rather a 3rd rounder or Lundkvist? Both are longshots, but I would go with the talent of Lundkvist, being an RD, and having a slightly higher potential of turning out vs a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Ultimately this comes down to Pearson as DiPietro won't get us anything in return. I think it's a safe bet that Pearson would be worth around a 3rd rounder, so the question becomes would you rather a 3rd rounder or Lundkvist? Both are longshots, but I would go with the talent of Lundkvist, being an RD, and having a slightly higher potential of turning out vs a 3rd. I'd rather keep Pearson for anything less than a second, and I wouldn't put in a waiver claim for Lundvist. Bottom line is that I don't want more defensive liabilities on our blueline. Edited September 1, 2022 by King Heffy Autocorrect sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Dermott 1 for 1 I'd actually rather have Dermott. He looks very reliable defensively. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 50 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Lundkvist for DiPietro Would do that all day long, but I think they will want more than just DiPietro. How about DiPietro and the 4th round pick they gave us for Motte? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Dermott>>>Lundqvist Only way this would make sense is if we traded a redundant player like DiPietro. Even then we’d need to slip him through waivers and I doubt he would pass through. Lundqvist is still waivers exempt https://www.capfriendly.com/players/nils-lundkvist He was a former first round pick, might do okay with the right coaching. Ideally, we trade Miller to Rangers for Schneider and a 1st round pick and Lundqvist slides up in the Rangers lineup to take Schneider's spot. Who's in favor of the Rangers sending us Schneider instead??? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Angry Goose Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Kuzy said: Lundkvist for Hoglander and Poolman no retention. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuzy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: Poolman has tons of negative value, Hoglander will probably have even less trade value by the end of this year since there's barely a spot for him on the team. I say kill 2 birds with one stone (find young RHD, get rid of Poolman's contract) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, Kuzy said: Poolman has tons of negative value, Hoglander will probably have even less trade value by the end of this year since there's barely a spot for him on the team. I say kill 2 birds with one stone (find young RHD, get rid of Poolman's contract) It’s absolutely insane to sell low on Hoglander. He has all the tools and the work ethic to be a dynamic player. Hoglander should get a spot on the third line. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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