Popular Post spook007 Posted September 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Cromeslab said: I’m excited for this season.Podz is gonna kill it is my bold prediction Really excited to see Kutz and Mik as well as Podz developing... This could be the most exciting season in a long time. Especially if Petey turns up from the start of the season. Bruce there is is... 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 6 hours ago, JM_ said: awesome way to get a flaky reputation. Its the last thing a competent management group would do. If the return was good enough, no one would care 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, spook007 said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Angry Goose said: For sure. JT has proved a lot of people wrong so far-I hope he keeps it up. What a lot of people don’t consider is Miller isn’t expected to be the #1 centre well in to his 30s. He’s going to be 1 of 3 good centres and that will take the load off him, and all 3 really. Going 3 centres strong is going to prolong his career. If Boudreau allocates the icetime evenly the burden will be shared evenly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Pure961089 said: What a lot of people don’t consider is Miller isn’t expected to be the #1 centre well in to his 30s. He’s going to be 1 of 3 good centres and that will take the load off him, and all 3 really. Going 3 centres strong is going to prolong his career. If Boudreau allocates the icetime evenly the burden will be shared evenly. Last season Miller 21:04, Horvat 19:30, EP 18:35 - all played top six minutes. Pretty awesome really! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 16 hours ago, -DLC- said: Goes around comes around stuff....has gone both ways and, yes, would be nice if it'd stop. Those of us on the side of retaining Miller took a lot of "homer, Koolaid drinking" stuff. Told we're fans of the players not the team and many insinuations made that we just don't know hockey and others were superior in their knowledge. So it's just part of having our moment because we ARE happy he's here and we did know a thing or two after all. For me, about negotiations and how they work. It ain't over till it's over. I take a fair bit of toxic masculinity on here, and wish it would ALL stop. But we are all Canucks and everyone's opinions matter. There are two sides to the coin and it's all a matter of how we view it on a personal basis, that's all. It's really nice to have this forum. We should all be happy about that. I'm sure grateful for it. But im also grateful it didn't exist when i was a kid. Couldn't imagine watching Quin and co getting flayed alive for every decision or non-decision. Used to be any fan could identify with the way a guy played and wear their jerseys proud. Sure mostly Bure and Linden jerseys - but you'd also see Hunter, Butcher, Walter ones too. Same with Dixon Ward ones lol. So ... Miller. He's awesome. We shouldn't worry that much about the future. Because Horvat will also be signed and that's our team strength. Podz is the trailer, Kuzmo the wild card. Cap wise. We won't see another year like the next one for awhile. I'm stoked! Anyone who's complained about this we haven't seen a leader since so and so - (Linden/Smyl) or they are awfully tired about the turning a cheek let's go full Swede etc. Better look in the mirror. I get, as do almost everyone on this site, we need to improve our D core. Why can't we instead be excited about our center depth? This isn't pre-cap where you could buy yourself out of trouble. And wow ... 8 million here is for sure a discount any way you slice it. That's 6.8-7.5 in most other cities. And well he just left probably a million a year on the table for us. EP. Second half. Was what we need him to do. Management doesn't think he's ready and neither do I. But he will be in a couple seasons. Maybe even this year - and a big huge part of that, is because he's completely insulated now with Miller. Horvat likely signs soon too. Bruce there it is! This is the first team i've seen since Quin was around, that has the firepower to roll 3 lines. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 6 hours ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: If the return was good enough, no one would care Miller isn't getting traded. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 6 hours ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: If the return was good enough, no one would care It wasn't. We signed him for great value. Get over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 7 hours ago, spook007 said: Really excited to see Kutz and Mik as well as Podz developing... This could be the most exciting season in a long time. Especially if Petey turns up from the start of the season. Bruce there is is... with our deeper line combo's Petey should get some good opportunities this year. I think we have the potential to be a hard team to game plan against. Do you put out your best defensive line against Bo, Miller or Petey? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JM_ said: Miller isn't getting traded. Nope. Wingers. They have loaded up this year and we are going to be awfully happy about the results. I believe the team we've got, is the one we saw after the coaching change. Contender - not yet .. but we aren't that far off either. Actually would be knocking on NJ's door asking for what Severson would cost us. 100% he's going to be rented, because they can't afford him and already made their move with Marino. He's not a solution to a succession plan because we don't actually have a RHD of note after Myers, but he's the best piece on the board with his BC ties and his age...Won't be surprised at all to see him part of our plans this year either. This IS our max cap year advantage, and hope they go for it. Edit: Severson ... 4 million. We could jam him in without much work. Edited September 6, 2022 by IBatch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, IBatch said: Nope. Wingers. They have loaded up this year and we are going to be awfully happy about the results. I believe the team we've got, is the one we saw after the coaching change. Contender - not yet .. but we aren't that far off either. Actually would be knocking on NJ's door asking for what Severson would cost us. 100% he's going to be rented, because they can't afford him and already made their move with Marino. He's not a solution to a succession plan because we don't actually have a RHD of note after Myers. Won't be surprised at all to see him part of our plans this year either. This IS our max cap year advantage, and hope they go for it. I think Myers will be re-signed to a much lower cap hit in a couple of years. Likely he'll slide in to more of a 3rd pairing role later on but that's fine. His role and cap hit will be more aligned. You're right that we are closer than it seems. Just need to find a way to re-work this jigsaw puzzle a bit. Honestly when the team says that they feel we're two years away, that doesn't feel all that long to me. I guess we've been waiting for a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, IBatch said: Nope. Wingers. They have loaded up this year and we are going to be awfully happy about the results. I believe the team we've got, is the one we saw after the coaching change. Contender - not yet .. but we aren't that far off either. Actually would be knocking on NJ's door asking for what Severson would cost us. 100% he's going to be rented, because they can't afford him and already made their move with Marino. He's not a solution to a succession plan because we don't actually have a RHD of note after Myers. Won't be surprised at all to see him part of our plans this year either. This IS our max cap year advantage, and hope they go for it. Severson would seem to be a good target. NJ didn't do nearly enough to be competitive, no chance of taking 3rd in the Metro and I just can't see them in the wildcard race after christmas. If we don't want to give up a 1st for him, what do we have that NJ needs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kloubek Posted September 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, IBatch said: But im also grateful it didn't exist when i was a kid. Couldn't imagine watching Quin and co getting flayed alive for every decision or non-decision. I think in today's age of social media, everybody is an expert and wants to be heard. People have a keyboard persona they portray, often (I believe) in an effort to come across as more outspoken, opinionated and knowledgeable - as opposed to their meek, boring and dreary real lives. I feel this brings out the worst in people, and miss the days when the guys would gather round and simply rally to support the team more than anything. Individual players were rarely placed under such a microscope, and if they were, it was for truly glaring reasons. But whether this is true or not isn't particularly important, because this is where society is at and when you give people a taste of the drug, they keep coming back. The facts in this case: We are a noticeably better team with Miller than without, and how it all plays out remains to be seen. Let's just watch the game, and enjoy the fact this it the best forward depth we've had since the cup run. Or, possibly - ever. 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, JM_ said: Severson would seem to be a good target. NJ didn't do nearly enough to be competitive, no chance of taking 3rd in the Metro and I just can't see them in the wildcard race after christmas. If we don't want to give up a 1st for him, what do we have that NJ needs? They need cheap deals and futures. Schenn, Hoglander and a second seems about right. We'd still need to do a bit of work to fit under the cap. But not much - Pearson would finish the job. I'd consider our first as well. We are moving away from the win later to win now mode. And am fine with that. Adding a guy of that calibre changes everything. We could then re-coup some losses at the draft because we will have to trade Garland or Brock after this seasons anyways to re-sign Severson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, IBatch said: Contender - not yet .. but we aren't that far off either. Careful with that talk around here, you heretic 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, JM_ said: Severson would seem to be a good target. NJ didn't do nearly enough to be competitive, no chance of taking 3rd in the Metro and I just can't see them in the wildcard race after christmas. If we don't want to give up a 1st for him, what do we have that NJ needs? Last year the rumours were revolving around Miller, Boeser, and Garland. Since 2 of them recently re-signed, think Garland may be required to give up for Severson. But it’s a cost controlled winger for a D going into UFA (unless he can be immediately re-signed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, IBatch said: They need cheap deals and futures. Schenn, Hoglander and a second seems about right. We'd still need to do a bit of work to fit under the cap. But not much - Pearson would finish the job. I'd consider our first as well. We are moving away from the win later to win now mode. And am fine with that. Adding a guy of that calibre changes everything. We could then re-coup some losses at the draft because we will have to trade Garland or Brock after this seasons anyways to re-sign Severson. man there would have to be something like a 5 year extension in place for Serverson if we're coughing up another 1st. Maybe a conditional 2nd/1st where we'd have to win two rounds? the thought of moving another 1st makes me but then again that might be the only way to get it done. Just hate thinning the prospect pool even more. NJ is full of smurfs.... maybe Klimovich is someone they'd target? pretty raw still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, BPA said: Last year the rumours were revolving around Miller, Boeser, and Garland. Since 2 of them recently re-signed, think Garland may be required to give up for Severson. But it’s a cost controlled winger for a D going into UFA (unless he can be immediately re-signed). Garland for Seveson in a heartbeat. Is he really what NJ needs tho? more small talent? he does play bigger tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted September 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: Garland for Seveson in a heartbeat. Is he really what NJ needs tho? more small talent? he does play bigger tho. 10 minutes ago, BPA said: Last year the rumours were revolving around Miller, Boeser, and Garland. Since 2 of them recently re-signed, think Garland may be required to give up for Severson. But it’s a cost controlled winger for a D going into UFA (unless he can be immediately re-signed). I think it's likely Garland, possibly packaged with Rathbone, but I doubt it's for Severson. Probably be someone nobody has even thought of. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Pages later and people still moaning about stuff nobody said? Ok then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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