Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted September 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2022 There appears to be only one change to the NHL Rulebook for 2022-23, but it’s one that addresses some significant controversies from the past few seasons: The NHL Rule Book has been updated for the 2022-23 season. There’s just one change, but it is a noteworthy one: Referees will now be able to nullify a major penalty after video review. Rule 20.6 previously only allowed the officials to confirm the original major penalty call or downgrade it to a minor. They now have a third option to wipe it out completely. Here’s the updated rule, change in bold: The Referee shall have the following options after video review of his own call: (i) confirming his original Major Penalty call; (ii) reducing his original Major Penalty call to a lesser penalty; or (iii) rescinding the original Major Penalty altogether. The old rule also required the officials downgrade the penalty to a lesser penalty of the same infraction. That is no longer the case. A major boarding penalty could, after review, be downgraded to a minor for cross-checking. This change does not apply to match penalty reviews. Interesting to see the league give its officials a few more options when it comes to video reviews. Since the change only applies to major penalties — and only situations already eligible for review — there shouldn’t be a big difference in execution. The additional option, though, gives the on-ice officials a better chance to get it right via review. https://scoutingtherefs.com/2022/09/35030/nhl-revamps-review-rule-to-permit-disallowed-penalties/ 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Won't fix anything unless the decision is taken out of the refs' hands altogether, unless you believe scum like Sutherland are merely incompetent instead of corrupt. This rule still assumes the refs working the game are trying to conduct themselves like professionals. The only way to solve the officiating issue is to actually hold problem refs accountable. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 This might actually lead to more majors being called. Since if it looks bad, but the ref isn’t 100% sure he saw the whole thing, calling the major allows him to confirm it. Previously if he wasn’t 100% sure, the ref may have called a minor or double-minor to offset his uncertainty. I think it’s a good thing. Seen far too many dirty plays that were deliberate attempts to injure just get minors. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Seems like a good idea, but as @D-Money mentions, it could increase calls of majors, with the refs knowing they have a safety net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: Won't fix anything unless the decision is taken out of the refs' hands altogether, unless you believe scum like Sutherland are merely incompetent instead of corrupt. This rule still assumes the refs working the game are trying to conduct themselves like professionals. The only way to solve the officiating issue is to actually hold problem refs accountable. I agree. The inconsistencies between officials is obvious. Not sure giving them more options on anything is going to make things better. Of course it's no easy job however you'd like to think the the referee association would strive harder for a scenario whereas there wasn't noticeable individual traits between there members.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 One ref one vision one tone to the game. Two refs we don't really know who's in charge out there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 They need to speed up the review. We all want them to get it right, even when it's against us. The refs job is to protect the players; they forget that objective all the time. Maybe they call more majors, but if the reviews were quick and decisive, we would end up with proper outcomes. Twenty officials in multiple locations, looking at it for 15 minutes is Marchanding ridiculous! More reviews to get it right; but make them "Quickies". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: One ref one vision one tone to the game. Two refs we don't really know who's in charge out there. Plus that means the pool of refs gets worse. Not to mention another body on an otherwise crowded ice surface. Just let linesman call majors that aren't seen. Agree one ref was better. It seems like every game the one way back just needs to call something lol, Let the guys play, missed calls are part of the game. And no team is getting an imaginary advantage over the other. There is a reason the playoffs provide the best hockey ... miss the days of Paul Stewart and even Kerry Fraser. Stewart often just let the guys play. And Fraser who seemed whistle happy at the time, really wasn't. Edited September 10, 2022 by IBatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: They need to speed up the review. We all want them to get it right, even when it's against us. The refs job is to protect the players; they forget that objective all the time. Maybe they call more majors, but if the reviews were quick and decisive, we would end up with proper outcomes. Twenty officials in multiple locations, looking at it for 15 minutes is Marchanding ridiculous! More reviews to get it right; but make them "Quickies". Go back to one ref. Let linesman call majors that are missed. And put the other ref so he can keep his job, somewhere with a bunch of TV angles so he can advise the on ice ref if he got it right. Basically a supervising ref off the ice ...win win win. It's idiotic to expect these guys to see all the angles TV allows. Same with linesman - split tiny second at full speed... actually hate the coaches call on offsides, so many great goals have been disallowed. And virtually none of them were affected by an inch here and there of cheating lol. Edited September 10, 2022 by IBatch 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: One ref one vision one tone to the game. Two refs we don't really know who's in charge out there. It also takes away some of the accountability...if no one is directly "responsible". One ref is the way to go. I also feel that the refs shouldn't be so "involved" in the game...call them, period. The interaction with players, the grudges that carry over, etc. They sometimes make it personal but each game should be a new slate with no bias. It is a tough gig....but that doesn't mean there isn't a standard to uphold and, at times, it's garbage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, -DLC- said: It also takes away some of the accountability...if no one is directly "responsible". One ref is the way to go. I also feel that the refs shouldn't be so "involved" in the game...call them, period. The interaction with players, the grudges that carry over, etc. They sometimes make it personal but each game should be a new slate with no bias. It is a tough gig....but that doesn't mean there is a standard to uphold and, at times, it's garbage. The refs are taking things way too personally out there. It makes them look like they care about the outcome of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Just now, Hairy Kneel said: The refs are taking things way too personally out there. It makes them look like they care about the outcome of the game. some of them do, e.g., Sutherland loves being part of the outcome. Hopefully with more tech we can take ref's more and more out of the game. Game management is at an all time high. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Goal:thecup said: They need to speed up the review. We all want them to get it right, even when it's against us. The refs job is to protect the players; they forget that objective all the time. Maybe they call more majors, but if the reviews were quick and decisive, we would end up with proper outcomes. Twenty officials in multiple locations, looking at it for 15 minutes is Marchanding ridiculous! More reviews to get it right; but make them "Quickies". Yep... frustrating if the team is flying... the whole thing is delayed for a substantial amount of time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 58 minutes ago, spook007 said: Yep... frustrating if the team is flying... the whole thing is delayed for a substantial amount of time... Yeah, and usually gives the 'wrong' team a rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 So basically the NHL have acknowledged some of their refs are incapable of doing their jobs and are giving them an 'out' to fix their own mistakes? I guess if you can't hire actual competent refs, I suppose this'll have to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: Yeah, and usually gives the 'wrong' team a rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: The refs are taking things way too personally out there. It makes them look like they care about the outcome of the game. And that's a big no-no! They shouldn't give a hoot about the outcome, in fact, sometimes it seems like they dictate it with phantom calls late. Ever notice how often the team that's a goal or two down miraculously gets a call in they're favor? In retrospect, it aint as bad as it use to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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