HKSR Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 TRADE #1 To VAN: Noah Dobston JG Pageau To NYI: Quinn Hughes Nils Hoglander There is a serious premium for RHD. Especially young ones locked up to a very cap friendly contract. The cost is a very dynamic LHD in Hughes. Canucks also get Pageau, who they will need with the departure noted below. TRADE #2 To VAN: Fabian Lysell 1st Round Pick To BOS: Bo Horvat Bruins could really use a centre for the future with Bergeron nearing retirement. They get Horvat while the Canucks get futures for the 3rd blockbuster below. TRADE #3 To VAN: Jacob Chychrun To ARZ: Fabian Lysell Jack Rathbone 1st Round Pick (BOS) The Canucks get another bonafide top 4 defenceman in Chychrun using the pieces from the Horvat deal. OUT: Hughes, Horvat, Hoglander, Rathbone IN: Dobson, Chychrun, Pageau Kuzmenko-Petey-Podkolzin Garland-Miller-Boeser Pearson-Pageau-Mikheyev Joshua-Aman-Lazar Chychrun-Dobson OEL-Poolman Stillman-Myers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Could be better. Could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Q. Hughes vs J. Hughes rivalry could sell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Does the current management have enough guts to pull off blockbuster deals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Why in the world would they trade the franchises most dynamic dman in the team's history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Not really feeling the trades but good effort. imho, we should be acquiring a top RHD to compliment/balance out QH, not trade him away for one. Just creates a redundancy. QH will have been a top 10 Dman in this league when we look back at his career. He’s arguably our best weapon too, all things considered. Keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, RWJC said: Not really feeling the trades but good effort. imho, we should be acquiring a top RHD to compliment/balance out QH, not trade him away for one. Just creates a redundancy. QH will have been a top 10 Dman in this league when we look back at his career. He’s arguably our best weapon too, all things considered. Keep him. Find me a top RHD that's available lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I like Dobson but he's done what he's done for one season, Hughes has a better track record of production and his two-way game improved last season. He's arguably our best player ahead of both Pettersson and Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, HKSR said: Find me a top RHD that's available lol I hear ya, I do. just doesn’t make sense to trade from weakest position to shore up weakest position unless it was surplus for quality, which is a rarity unless it’s part of a cap dump play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 The 1st trade is a big W for the Canucks. I love it, but I don't think the Islanders would do it. 2nd trade is a W for Bruins. Lysell and a 1st are not equal to a 2C in the NHL (I like the trade fodder idea). 3rd trade is a W for the Canucks. The Coyotes want more for Chychrun. Great for the Nucks. Great way to get Chyhrun for Bo. A top pairing D of Chychurn Dobson With Pageau, Nucks get a competent 3C-r It would be too good to be true (which I think it is). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Not bad my friend. One comment is if we are trading Hughes I would want to keep Rathbone. I wouldn't want to trade both. So Arizona would have to get another one of our prospects. Maybe Lekkerimaki? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, higgyfan said: The 1st trade is a big W for the Canucks. I love it, but I don't think the Islanders would do it. 2nd trade is a W for Bruins. Lysell and a 1st are not equal to a 2C in the NHL (I like the trade fodder idea). 3rd trade is a W for the Canucks. The Coyotes want more for Chychrun. Great for the Nucks. Great way to get Chyhrun for Bo. A top pairing D of Chychurn Dobson With Pageau, Nucks get a competent 3C-r It would be too good to be true (which I think it is). Horvat doesn't have a contract ... so is essentially a rental now, well aside from the rest of this season, so a rental plus a bit. Don't get our hopes up as far as returns go for Horvat. Same people did last season with Miller. This is a pretty reasonable offer. Also QHs... for 5 years. Is a pretty fair trade for Dobson plus a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, HKSR said: TRADE #1 To VAN: Noah Dobston JG Pageau To NYI: Quinn Hughes Nils Hoglander There is a serious premium for RHD. Especially young ones locked up to a very cap friendly contract. The cost is a very dynamic LHD in Hughes. Canucks also get Pageau, who they will need with the departure noted below. TRADE #2 To VAN: Fabian Lysell 1st Round Pick To BOS: Bo Horvat Bruins could really use a centre for the future with Bergeron nearing retirement. They get Horvat while the Canucks get futures for the 3rd blockbuster below. TRADE #3 To VAN: Jacob Chychrun To ARZ: Fabian Lysell Jack Rathbone 1st Round Pick (BOS) The Canucks get another bonafide top 4 defenceman in Chychrun using the pieces from the Horvat deal. OUT: Hughes, Horvat, Hoglander, Rathbone IN: Dobson, Chychrun, Pageau Kuzmenko-Petey-Podkolzin Garland-Miller-Boeser Pearson-Pageau-Mikheyev Joshua-Aman-Lazar Chychrun-Dobson OEL-Poolman Stillman-Myers Stops right at 1st trade Dobson 22- RD -6'3 - 52 points last season 3 yrs X 4 million - NYI won't move RD men are hard to get.. Pageau 5'10 - 29 - 4yrs X 5 million Big no - small guy - GP 75 -- G 16--18 -PTS 35--39 ?Maybe Sorry this many trades only happen in Playstation Hockey 2022... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Quinn may be the best defenceman of the bunch so you'd hate to lose him in all fairness. I see the quality shift though - basically a good 2C + 1LD for 2 decent defencemen and a 3C. I'd simplify it and just try Horvat for Dobson straight up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Quinn may be the best defenceman of the bunch so you'd hate to lose him in all fairness. I see the quality shift though - basically a good 2C + 1LD for 2 decent defencemen and a 3C. I'd simplify it and just try Horvat for Dobson straight up... There is literally zero chance Horvat lands Dobson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Quinn may be the best defenceman of the bunch so you'd hate to lose him in all fairness. I see the quality shift though - basically a good 2C + 1LD for 2 decent defencemen and a 3C. I'd simplify it and just try Horvat for Dobson straight up... Horvat and QHs ... for Dobson and their first is pretty much what Lou would counter with. Dobson's cheap now, so that's great! Maybe then we win the Horvat sweepstake next summer and get him back lol. That would be some JR vs Lou stuff ... One can dream anyways. As for QHs, I don't want to lose him either. We have OEL, which mitigates it somewhat, he reminds me a little of Ohlund minus the brutal hitting power. Our cap also would look a lot better. Dobson scoring 50 points for NYI...what could he do on our team instead? It's too bad we can't add Dobson and keep QHs or EP. But that's what the ask should be for Dobson ... 4 million, for now. What i like about Dobson the most is his mobility plus his size. 6'3 3/4 vs 5'9 3/4. Even after last season, and in the league the way it is now, im still not completely convinced QHs won't get nailed and end up on the LTIR. Babcyh ... well "Hudson Bay rules" are nothing like they were when he played, and QHs was fine the first two series ... but they still come out to a degree, Vegas showed us that in the bubble. QHs was almost completely nuetralized - had one entire moment when he got pissed and went in and scored, Vegas hemmed both him and Stetcher, put two guys on them right away and they couldn't handle it. A lot harder to do against a guy like Dobson. Myers was the most effective D in that series, and he was maybe 80%. It's also why i doubt Rathbone works on this team with QHs. Too easy to focus your tactics come playoffs on one side. Babych and Co did this to Phil Housley, who was at the peak of his powers, and he completely disappeared. Have to give some credit to QHs, he got plastered many times, and just got right back up and kept going. Kids got a ton of heart. Edited October 15, 2022 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) I actually like these deals... We have to give to get. I think we all know this, but hate what it means... We want size and ability on the back end and need a top RHD. What we have is an abundance of top six players, so somehow, we need to find a way to fit a circle into a square, and we don't have much other to do with. So yes sure, why not... QH is our top star together with Demko and EP. So he will be the one player bringing the most back in any trade. Very interesting proposal indeed... (A yes QH is our most intriguing player, so it will be very tough....) Big question though is, do Islanders, Bruins, and Yotes want to play ball? Edited October 15, 2022 by spook007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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