[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Minnesota Wild | Oct. 20, 2022

[lmm]

5 hours ago, JM_ said:

gnome was a UFA tho, on a team with contending aspirations. The equivalent would have been to trade gnome in his last year with Cowgary. Not sure that kind of move would have been likely. 

now we are in agreement

but I said all that a couple of pages back.

Which is why I brought up Kadri, because Kadri and Gudreau and Calgary and Colo were in the same situation

Which is the same situation that allows GMs to trade picks and futures for rentals at the trade deadline

 

Thankfully Alvin didn't think he was in that position, although I do wonder about the usefulness of acquiring Dermot 

Given the state of Boeser's QO, Alvin did what he felt was making the best of a bad situation.

I, and a growing number of others disagree that that was the best move he could have made

As I mentioned earlier, Boeser has been paid his entire career on his potential, but year after year he has not lived up to that potential

Boeser is currently on a 0 goal pace

If he scores one goal next game, he will be on a 13 goal pace

if he scores 2 goals next game he will be on a 26 goal pace

he has hit the net on average once per game, so scoring a hattrick seems unlikely, but that is what he needs to justify his current pay scale

5 shots in 5 games, AND HE'S A SHOOTER

[JM_]

2 hours ago, lmm said:

now we are in agreement

but I said all that a couple of pages back.

Which is why I brought up Kadri, because Kadri and Gudreau and Calgary and Colo were in the same situation

Which is the same situation that allows GMs to trade picks and futures for rentals at the trade deadline

 

Thankfully Alvin didn't think he was in that position, although I do wonder about the usefulness of acquiring Dermot 

Given the state of Boeser's QO, Alvin did what he felt was making the best of a bad situation.

I, and a growing number of others disagree that that was the best move he could have made

As I mentioned earlier, Boeser has been paid his entire career on his potential, but year after year he has not lived up to that potential

Boeser is currently on a 0 goal pace

If he scores one goal next game, he will be on a 13 goal pace

if he scores 2 goals next game he will be on a 26 goal pace

he has hit the net on average once per game, so scoring a hattrick seems unlikely, but that is what he needs to justify his current pay scale

5 shots in 5 games, AND HE'S A SHOOTER

yeah in hindsight maybe we just should have kept the 3rd and drafted a RHD long shot prospect.... but maybe he'll be useful? dunno. 

 

I can see why JA did what he did with Brock, its hard to just walk away from an asset. We really need Brock to step up soon tho. 

[Redline]

18 hours ago, chon derry said:

The slight was directed at Miller while there’s an unintended compliment towards stecher and markstrome 

Never said I was right..or offended...I stand by my comment..totally incomparable..there are much better analogies to compliment players.

Edited October 23, 2022 by Redline

[Dazzle]

Lmfao, our fanbase is freaking embarassing to throw their jersey away. Lots of bad teams over the years and people weren't as spoiled as us.

[Dazzle]

This is not how you support your team. Brutal.

[Dr. Crossbar]

On 10/22/2022 at 9:44 PM, Dazzle said:

This is not how you support your team. Brutal.

What happened? Missed it.

[Plsdontdoit]

lol they given up 

[viking mama]

On 10/21/2022 at 6:57 AM, Attila Umbrus said:

I hope so too VM. But I’m concerned there is something rotten happening…I really don’t want to start rumours or kick up dirt that isn’t there. However, I’m worried about our ownership group and if the players have quit on them. With the allegations against Francesco from his family (bogus or not) it just seems to me our team has no heart right now…hard to give it your all if you have problems with the man that owns the team. The entire team including Bruce seem deflated, completely opposite from last year…JT being the big family man he is, I could see this not sitting well with him. 
 

I honestly was hoping for Francesco to announce he would step away to deal with this, but he has remained at the helm and only stated he will make no further comments. 
 

I just wonder, until the lawsuit is settled and some more truth is shed on the matter, this cloud will hang over this team and it’s players until it’s finished.

 

We can all sit here and say boo hoo, collect your big pay cheques and keep playing hockey and win games for our team. But they are all human and have families too. It wouldn’t sit well with me if I worked for a man like that. In fact without going into my own personal details, I have quit a job before and found other work because of a boss who was an absolute monster. I was getting paid well but I didn’t give a shit about that. Only difference, I could quit and walk away…our Canucks players cannot…that would drive me insane. There are enough stories of Francesco being a bully to his employees and work force. All of them cobbler together paint s picture of a crappy person.

 

I think Francesco has completely derailed this team and he should step aside.

Hmmm. Food for thought. 
 

I think it is possible that some new cliques have formed. Russians, Swedes, Americans, old-timers, & the young-stars…may be they are not being as open or equally-generous with all of their teammates on the ice, in terms of their trust during playmaking. 
 

Repeatedly losing quickly becomes like having an albatross hung around each of their necks, especially when they already know how consequential these early season losses can be. 
 

What breeds confidence? Consistantly losing leads sounds like a failure in team tenacity, fitness, grit, and/or communication…generally degrading their over-all team-D. 

Up the quotient in just a couple of these  categories & I would expect to see some better results, & a few more Ws at least.
 

Shooting practice, too - way more of that, as the close calls & near misses are  absolutely haunting, now! 
 

As neat segway, have a happy Hallowe’en!