garthsbutcher Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Opens up much needed cap and maybe we squeeze a late first or second out of the deal. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 irrational. Absolutely irrational and poorly thought out. Just get rid of him, maybe someone will give us a 1st or 2nd for him? Come on mate; you can do better 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Is Boeser for Severson unreasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) The whole team (except for Petey) has played like crap up until that last game. I'll give Brock a few more weeks here to show he can still be a useful scorer. Plus, he kinda has to show that first to have any trade value. Edited October 31, 2022 by Strawbone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Is Boeser for Severson unreasonable? Would the Devils go for that? I understand it's better than losing him for nothing. But I'd figure Severson would require more from the Devils. Canucks would have to take on an additional $2.4 million in salary somewhere. Haula to balance the cap, and the Rangers 4th round pick we have in 2023? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeeeergh Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 37 minutes ago, garthsbutcher said: Opens up much needed cap and maybe we squeeze a late first or second out of the deal. Or just wait and give him a chance to recover from injury and find his form, instead of selling low? What's the rush? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just for a late first round pick or 2nd round pick is fine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) This proposal is bad, the idea that Brock is suddenly worthless is dumb. Folks need to chill. He's got two years left on his contract after this season, ain't a ton of term. Throw him in the top six and put him in positions to succeed in hopes that he produces, and if you cut him some slack as he's just coming off injury he probably eventually will. Over his career he's been good for 45-50ish points and 20-24ish goals, there's still a chance he can either meet or improve upon that. He's played 6 games and has 4 assists. Sure, he's struggled to score but he's still produced. That's a good sign. Worst comes to worst retain 1M for a couple years to bump up his value, we're used to dead cap at this point anyway. Three seasons ain't the end of the world, and if it actually gets you something of value that's fantastic. Edited October 31, 2022 by Coconuts 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Would the Devils go for that? I understand it's better than losing him for nothing. But I'd figure Severson would require more from the Devils. Canucks would have to take on an additional $2.4 million in salary somewhere. Haula to balance the cap, and the Rangers 4th round pick we have in 2023? I think there's a chance, they're probably going to trade Severson anyway as a pending UFA, they've got Hamilton and Marino on the right side so Severson is a luxury. Devils have top six centers down the middle in Hughes and Hischier, they're also pretty set on RD. They're not as strong down the wing though, and Boeser is on a short term deal so it's not really a ton of commitment. They'd be getting a guy who's shown he can put up 20+ goals and 45-50 points with term for a guy they'll probably lose to UFA if they keep him. Severson will want to be paid, Jersey has a lot of moving cap pieces and should probably prioritize re-signing Bratt. I question whether it's worth going after Severson via trade though, but I suppose it depends on which direction management is committed to. If the idea is to try and compete sooner than later they could certainly do worse, and if they really like Severson trading for him is a good way to try and lock him down before another team does. There'd probably need to be some other moving pieces mixed in but the bones of a trade are there imo. Jersey is a team that probably wants to try and compete, I could see them taking a player over picks at this point given the youth in their system and on their roster. Edited October 31, 2022 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, Strawbone said: The whole team (except for Petey) has played like crap up until that last game. I'll give Brock a few more weeks here to show he can still be a useful scorer. Plus, he kinda has to show that first to have any trade value. Agree with this notion but where do you put him in the lineup? Take Garland off Horvat? Kuzmenko off Petey? Can he bring scoring from the 3rd line? If so, that's a big win for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, jyu said: Agree with this notion but where do you put him in the lineup? Take Garland off Horvat? Kuzmenko off Petey? Can he bring scoring from the 3rd line? If so, that's a big win for the team. It’s a tough call. I wouldn’t want to be the one deciding to break up any of the lines from the Penguins game. That was the first time this year the Canucks have played like a real team for 60 minutes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCNate Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 I think Boeser is fine. He puts up points, and is reasonable in his own end. I don't believe he is worth the near 7 million he is paid, but has some value. He certainly has the potential to be a 30 goal/60 point winger, teams value guys like that. I think it's pretty clear that we are at a stage that we should look to deal a winger for help on D. I think it is only a matter of time before a move is made. -Garland is a better player on a better deal, and misses less time -Podkolzin isn't goin anywhere -Hoglander is selling low -Pearson probably adds more than he would get in a return. -Mikheyev has looked excellent so far and fills a huge gap for us -Kuzmenko looks like a 30 goal 60 point player on an ELC. He is likely re signed. Out if all the wingers we have, I think Boeser makes the most sense to move. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 He’s not worthless ffs. 60 point player. Look around the league and figure it out 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Heffy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: This proposal is bad, the idea that Brock is suddenly worthless is dumb. Folks need to chill. He's got two years left on his contract after this season, ain't a ton of term. Throw him in the top six and put him in positions to succeed in hopes that he produces, and if you cut him some slack as he's just coming off injury he probably eventually will. Over his career he's been good for 45-50ish points and 20-24ish goals, there's still a chance he can either meet or improve upon that. He's played 6 games and has 4 assists. Sure, he's struggled to score but he's still produced. That's a good sign. Worst comes to worst retain 1M for a couple years to bump up his value, we're used to dead cap at this point anyway. Three seasons ain't the end of the world, and if it actually gets you something of value that's fantastic. Any cap retention longer than one season is not acceptable. We have already had two management groups stupid enough to do this; any management staff who even suggest this need to be fired on the spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon.Duck Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I am so glad fans are not GMs. lmao. Short-Term thinking and action. BB is far more effective than many late 1st rounders or second rounders will ever be. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Drugs are bad, M'nKay? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 OP is getting shredded but his point stands that BB just isnt a fit on this team. The top 6 seems like its coming together. Cant generate on his own. Has shown limited chemistry with line mates other than EP, and even they struggled at times when paired together. The lack of pace hurts this team. He’s also not a necessity for the PP. He would do well on an already quick team that can feed him the puck/need a RH PP option. His value though is probably quite low. There would need to be a team that has a specific need for his skillset, which is basically just a triggerman. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I disagree with the proposal to dump him for anything. But I do think we need to make a couple trades. Miller is one of them and another is either Brock or Garland. Garland might have more value in a trade so maybe look to move him and take a chance on Brock regaining his form. Bottom line though is I don't think we should or need to trade these players for nothing just to clear cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 If You could get a first for him with no cap back then you take that deal and run. ‘I think the game has gotten too fast for him since he was a rookie and he seems to have lost a step with all the injuries. ‘I see him more as a secondary scorer than a primary option now. More of a Gagner type and is making around double what a player of that level should. ‘If the Devils would trade for Severson I would take that deal, trade from position of relative strength to fill a premium position and one of horrible weakness. I know he is UFA and if he didn’t re-sign or doesn’t work out we get cap space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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