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7 hours ago, Ilunga said:

You are still here and one of the most devious players I know, respect. 

 

However you are playing very like that game where you snatched a win at the end as scum.

This part of the post on second read, really rings my alarms. 

 

You used the same argument against BJ last round. If he wasn't MKed he would be someone to sus out later. Yet he is still here and you are telling DM now that he is giving you townie Vibes. 

 

The problem with the, "you are still alive, so you must be scum" argument is that scum control the MK, not townies, therefore the rationale behind the MK is manipulated by scum. 

 

Scum most likely figured out LL was sheriff from his posting, why would they target me when I hard claimed VT early in the game? I probably shouldn't have done that, but at that moment I didn't think I was going to continue with the game. 

 

It's these subtle inconsistencies in your game that lead me to think you are scum since I don't remember seeing a single thing I could point to as you being scum last game. 

 

No offence taken to the deviousness of my game, I accept it and own it, but there has to be something in this game that you can point to which leads you to think I am scum.

 

The basis of me thinking you are scum is in your Meta but it's not the sole reason.

 

  • Your vote on SD went against who your top scum reads were in Lewt and DM - You can say it's because you didn't think either was going to hang that round but you could have also pushed your reasonings harder. To me it looks like a scum who was fine with a lynch on any townie.
  • You pre-sussed BJ, dropping a seed that if he is still alive he is likely mafia, then saying it was due to your first round wasted investigation on BJ last game (fine) - but now you have "townie vibes" from him. Your logic is contradicting itself, is that how you feel or is it because you were called out on it last round?
  • You never once put in your player reads list thinking I was scum or voicing how devious I am, until I started coming at you. Why wasn't I someone you were pushing for a lynch last round? I was ok with being the first lynch so it should have been an easy push if you thought I was scum - Lay out a reason I am scum and include me not caring if I was lynched or not, likely would have lead to me being the first to go. Instead you voted SD over all your reads - even the ones you didn't tell the rest of us about.
  • You use the fact that I am still here, moving it away from your seed of BJ still being here. If you are scum you get to choose who is MKed not me. I would have welcomed an MK last round. But this round Super Town Aladeen has woken up and even though the scum team hit the sheriff I will figure this game out so they should MK me this round if they want a chance at winning. 

All we need is to see your flip and I will solve this game and redeem myself from last game.

 

Vote Illunga

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On 11/15/2022 at 2:26 AM, Ilunga said:

As has been pointed out no point in voting BJ first round, see if the scum take him out, if not pressure should be applied.

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Ilunga said:

Why ? 

 

I am getting townie vibes from him.

 

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I'm still leaning toward saying ilunga is clean.  With that said, the reasoning that somebody *might* be mafia (in reference to Blue Jay 22 or Aladeen, I think?) because they haven't been shot yet is never really a great one to point out.  I mean, it's something that most players will naturally come to anyway during a game as the rounds go on, but to suggest as much in R1 or R2 just seems like a way to apply artificial pressure on somebody.

I'd keep ilunga around, but I would bump him down to my "ones to watch" list with naslund.is.king, Sharpshooter, and Darth Melvin.

Porscha is hopefully the way we go for this round.

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2 minutes ago, AV. said:

I'm still leaning toward saying ilunga is clean.  With that said, the reasoning that somebody *might* be mafia (in reference to Blue Jay 22 or Aladeen, I think?) because they haven't been shot yet is never really a great one to point out.  I mean, it's something that most players will naturally come to anyway during a game as the rounds go on, but to suggest as much in R1 or R2 just seems like a way to apply artificial pressure on somebody.

I'd keep ilunga around, but I would bump him down to my "ones to watch" list with naslund.is.king, Sharpshooter, and Darth Melvin.

Porscha is hopefully the way we go for this round.

If porscha doesn't vote she is GKed anyways, I think its fine to pressure to see if she will vote to self pres or not. Porscha could still ultimately be the right vote this round but we will have to see what she does.

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Just now, Aladeen said:

If porscha doesn't vote she is GKed anyways, I think its fine to pressure to see if she will vote to self pres or not. Porscha could still ultimately be the right vote this round but we will have to see what she does.

Tbh, that makes me more inclined to vote Porscha.  Suppose Porscha is town but doesn't vote, and assuming mafia take out another town member via the MK, if we vote on another townsperson by mistake instead of Porscha, we might be down three more town bodies going into R3.

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54 minutes ago, AV. said:

Tbh, that makes me more inclined to vote Porscha.  Suppose Porscha is town but doesn't vote, and assuming mafia take out another town member via the MK, if we vote on another townsperson by mistake instead of Porscha, we might be down three more town bodies going into R3.

Yah I see the logic in that. For me though I have more of a read on Illunga than Porscha. So I will wait at least until she posts or play it by ear nearer to NF. 

 

I think the PoE this round is:

 

Porscha 

Illunga

NIK 

and now maybe DM 

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Just now, Blue Jay 22 said:

I don’t even know what this means. What chat 

on the top left corner of my chrome webpage, it lets you know who is in chat and who is typing. You know nothing of this?

 

anyways Like last game Porscha and I have been late night enjoyers. They were present in chat last night.

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