[Signing] Stars re-sign Roope Hintz

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Devron]

Heck of a player

[MeanSeanBean]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, why you don't continually trade draft picks. Pretty darn good for a 2nd rounder.

[Al-mo]

Bo is not getting any cheaper.......

[timberz21]

4 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:

And this, ladies and gentlemen, why you don't continually trade draft picks. Pretty darn good for a 2nd rounder.

Zetterberg and Datsyuk were 7th rounder (or even further back then), so basically anyone shouldn't trade any pick ever?

[timberz21]

Heck of a deal for Dallas.  He's only going to get better, in 2-3 years that salary will be Mackinnon-cheap.

[DownUndaCanuck]

Ouch, Bo is going to get PAID. Was hoping we could get Bo around 8M but he plays more than Hintz, scores arguably a tiny bit less points but more goals. We'll be lucky if we get Bo under 8.5M.

[86Viking]

Roope had 37 goals last season and 72pts, 24pts in 22gp this year and a ppg 2 years ago...Horvat going to want something nearly identical, I would say he should not get the same as Roope as Hintz has had better overall numbers the last few years. But, fans and Bo's agent will look at his goal scoring and want the same deal if not ask for more.

 

Dallas locking up guys for the same cap hit, Tampa 2.0 almost...Canucks hopefully can do something similar?

[86Viking]

1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Ouch, Bo is going to get PAID. Was hoping we could get Bo around 8M but he plays more than Hintz, scores arguably a tiny bit less points but more goals. We'll be lucky if we get Bo under 8.5M.

Bo's ppg the last 2 years is not at Hintz's level and Hintz had a 37g season last year...not scoring at that same clip this season but he is over a ppg. Canucks should really just be offering Bo the JT Miller contract, maybe even going the max term route of 8 yrs

[Warhippy]

Pay attention to the size and skating of some oft he recent rising stars like the dallas stars recent drafts, tage thompson in buffalo etc.

 

Big bodies that can skate.  robertson, 6 foot 3 207pds.  Hintz 6 foot 3, 215 pds, thompson 6 foot 6 220 pds.

 

All these kids doing well, drafted late 1st or 2nd round.  developed over a few years and brought in slowly and appropriately.  Large bodies that can skate and then refined their skills through proper development.

 

After delving deep in to the canucks drafting and development since 2006.  I am just kind of defeated that we have changed or learned nothing over almost 2 decades.

[Jester13]

3 minutes ago, Neutral said:

Bo's ppg the last 2 years is not at Hintz's level and Hintz had a 37g season last year...not scoring at that same clip this season but he is over a ppg. Canucks should really just be offering Bo the JT Miller contract, maybe even going the max term route of 8 yrs

I've been saying for months that they should've locked in Bo for 7Mx8Y to match JT's amount, but I think it's more likely up to at least 8x8. 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

16 minutes ago, Al-mo said:

Bo is not getting any cheaper.......

 

[NewbieCanuckFan]

7 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Pay attention to the size and skating of some oft he recent rising stars like the dallas stars recent drafts, tage thompson in buffalo etc.

 

Big bodies that can skate.  robertson, 6 foot 3 207pds.  Hintz 6 foot 3, 215 pds, thompson 6 foot 6 220 pds.

 

All these kids doing well, drafted late 1st or 2nd round.  developed over a few years and brought in slowly and appropriately.  Large bodies that can skate and then refined their skills through proper development.

 

After delving deep in to the canucks drafting and development since 2006.  I am just kind of defeated that we have changed or learned nothing over almost 2 decades.

Our Western Canada amateur scout didn't like smaller bodies as well  that could skate and played with some grit.  See Brendan Gallagher.  But somehow this same scout was credited by Jim Benning for "finding" EP?  

Edited November 29, 2022 by NewbieCanuckFan

[-AJ-]

Honestly, I don't think the comparison between Bo and Hintz is that close. Hintz is a better defensive player and I would argue also a better offensive player too, though maybe Bo will contest me on that statement if he continues his pace this year.

[86Viking]

4 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Pay attention to the size and skating of some oft he recent rising stars like the dallas stars recent drafts, tage thompson in buffalo etc.

 

Big bodies that can skate.  robertson, 6 foot 3 207pds.  Hintz 6 foot 3, 215 pds, thompson 6 foot 6 220 pds.

 

All these kids doing well, drafted late 1st or 2nd round.  developed over a few years and brought in slowly and appropriately.  Large bodies that can skate and then refined their skills through proper development.

 

After delving deep in to the canucks drafting and development since 2006.  I am just kind of defeated that we have changed or learned nothing over almost 2 decades.

Not nearly at the same level as the players you mentioned but Canucks made a mistake in my opinion by waiving and losing MacEwen to start last year. He can skate really well and has some size. Is nothing more than a 4th line but with his speed and size he could have been a solid 4th line guy for us who also brought grit.

[Gurn]

Roope:

2017-18	Texas Stars	AHL	70	20	15	35	27	2	22	4	8	12	4
2018-19	Dallas Stars	NHL	58	9	13	22	24	-11	13	5	3	8	2
2018-19	Texas Stars	AHL	21	9	13	22	10	0	--	--	--	--	--
2019-20	Dallas Stars	NHL	60	19	14	33	16	3	25	2	11	13	10
2020-21	Dallas Stars	NHL	41	15	28	43	4	13
2021-22	Dallas Stars	NHL	80	37	35	72	28	15	6	2	2	4	2
2022-23	Dallas Stars	NHL	22	8	16	24	8	13

 

Horvat

2014-15	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	68	13	12	25	16	-8	6	1	3	4	2
2014-15	Utica Comets	AHL	5	0	0	0	4	0	--	--	--	--	--
2015-16	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	82	16	24	40	18	-30	--	--	--	--	--
2016-17	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	81	20	32	52	27	-7	--	--	--	--	--
2017-18	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	64	22	22	44	10	-1	--	--	--	--	--
2018-19	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	82	27	34	61	33	-4	--	--	--	--	--
2019-20	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	69	22	31	53	21	-15	17	10	2	12	4
2020-21	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	56	19	20	39	23	-6	--	--	--	--	--
2021-22	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	70	31	21	52	40	3	--	--	--	--	--
2022-23	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	22	17	7	24	6	1

 

Roope avg 17:08 ice time and 52.1% on face offs

Bo               21:01                     57.5

 

[86Viking]

3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

There is more to a player than just goals though. Roope outscored Horvat last year in goals and points...

 

Hintz also was not aloways a top 6 player where Horvat has been in that role for quite a while, meaning he gets more ice time 5 on 5 , PP and PK. Horvat also is the new go to guy for scoring goals on the PP in the bumper spot, taking over from the Petey one timer.

[Bure_Pavel]

2 minutes ago, Jester13 said:

I've been saying for months that they should've locked in Bo for 7Mx8Y to match JT's amount, but I think it's more likely up to at least 8x8. 

Management really dropped the ball on that one. Who ever is in charge of cap management in the new regime should get canned. Worried we are going to become the next Philadelphia Flyers.   

[86Viking]

3 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

Honestly, I don't think the comparison between Bo and Hintz is that close. Hintz is a better defensive player and I would argue also a better offensive player too, though maybe Bo will contest me on that statement if he continues his pace this year.

I agree, to me it's not saying Bo is worth way less than Hintz but Horvat should Not be getting 8.45m or dare I say more on his next deal, not from us anyway...

 

Hintz is no slouch of a player, 37g last year, ppg the year before and over a ppg this year. Better offensive numbers as a whole compared to Horvat over that time, Bo is just Goal scoring like crazy this year but he isn't much of a playmaking C putting up lots of assists 

[Caboose]

Dallas will regret not giving Robertson the 8 year deal, but overall this is a great contract I think. Heck of a player, total warrior too played a year on one leg.