Elias Pettersson Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rekker said: Why does Jersey make this trade? Doesn't compute for me I don't think they do. I'd be happy with McLeod for Boeser. But damn, if Allvin can get the Swedish guy Holtz, holy moly... Edited February 2 by Elias Pettersson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, rekker said: Why does Jersey make this trade? Doesn't compute for me Yeah, I would think they’d send us back an expiring contract like Tatar. I made a proposal that also had us sending Lekkerimaki to replace their prospect, plus another pick coming our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Mantha was scratched. Wonder if theyre looking at Mantha + for Boeser. we don’t save a lot, but his contract expires one year earlier. Maybe worth it if we got their 1st, and Iorio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 7 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Yeah, I would think they’d send us back an expiring contract like Tatar. I made a proposal that also had us sending Lekkerimaki to replace their prospect, plus another pick coming our way. Yip. I was just thinking, add LetterKenny. I'd do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 51 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If this rumour is true then Boeser for Holtz is a home run trade. Even better than the Horvat trade. Holtz is a pure sniper and has a world class shot, similar to Patrik Laine. I'd easily retain $2 million on Boeser to get Holtz. He would instantly become our best prospect, better than Raty. That's not a real rumour though but some fan wish. NJD are apparently in on Meier per Friedman with LeBrun saying Fitzgeral has a specific player in mind and then illustrates his article with a picture of Meier. NJD needs a finisher but they define their identity as pace and speed. Holtz can't get in the lineup because he doesn't have enough skating speed - replacing him with someone that's just as slow doesn't seem to make much sense. Fwiw Dreger thinks Boeser is more likely to be an off-season deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, mll said: That's not a real rumour though but some fan wish. NJD are apparently in on Meier per Friedman with LeBrun saying Fitzgeral has a specific player in mind and then illustrates his article with a picture of Meier. NJD needs a finisher but they define their identity as pace and speed. Holtz can't get in the lineup because he doesn't have enough skating speed - replacing him with someone that's just as slow doesn't seem to make much sense. Fwiw Dreger thinks Boeser is more likely to be an off-season deal. Meier is going to cost them a lot more than Holtz. We’re talking Holtz plus their 2023 1st, plus maybe a 2nd as well. Plus on top of that I’m assuming New Jersey would want to re-sign him in the summer. As a 26 year old RFA, he will be looking for $8 million+ on a long term deal. Does New Jersey want to commit to Meier long term at $8 million+, or would they be better off with Boeser for another 2 years at almost 50% less of a cap hit at $4.65 million? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I wouldn’t be surprised to see Boeser traded to Calgary. They have openly said they are looking for a scoring winger They will have Lucic contract coming off the books next year so the term of Boesers deal isn’t a concern The Canucks could take back Lucic to maximize return 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Meier is going to cost them a lot more than Holtz. We’re talking Holtz plus their 2023 1st, plus maybe a 2nd as well. Plus on top of that I’m assuming New Jersey would want to re-sign him in the summer. As a 26 year old RFA, he will be looking for $8 million+ on a long term deal. Does New Jersey want to commit to Meier long term at $8 million+, or would they be better off with Boeser for another 2 years at almost 50% less of a cap hit at $4.65 million? Adding a player who doesn't seem the best fit is not going to make them a better team. Their speed is their competitive advantage and Boeser doesn't have speed. A powerforward vs a slow perimeter winger - seems like a rather easy choice. Meier brings elements they lack in their lineup and their top-6 is rather slight. He already has existing chemistry with Hischier and fits their age group. It will be tough to fit him and Bratt cap wise but maybe it will motivate both to take more reasonable deals given the team they are building there. Bratt could well find himself on the outs if he continues to ask for the moon - he refused to negotiate last season where he asked for more than Hughes on a long term deal and told NJD take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, Alflives said: Eichel and Boeser could be an American dynamic duo. 4 hours ago, rekker said: Especially the cyborg gold helmet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 24 minutes ago, mll said: Adding a player who doesn't seem the best fit is not going to make them a better team. Their speed is their competitive advantage and Boeser doesn't have speed. A powerforward vs a slow perimeter winger - seems like a rather easy choice. Meier brings elements they lack in their lineup and their top-6 is rather slight. He already has existing chemistry with Hischier and fits their age group. It will be tough to fit him and Bratt cap wise but maybe it will motivate both to take more reasonable deals given the team they are building there. Bratt could well find himself on the outs if he continues to ask for the moon - he refused to negotiate last season where he asked for more than Hughes on a long term deal and told NJD take it or leave it. I kinda think Meier might end up in Buffalo tbh. Put him on Cozens wing and watch him blow up. They have the cap, picks, young NHL'ers, and prospect depth to pull it off. And Okposo's expiring 6M would eat up a good chunk of whatever they extended him at. Edited February 2 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I kinda think Meier might end up in Buffalo tbh. Put him on Cozens wing and watch him blow up. They have the cap, picks, young NHL'ers, and prospect depth to pull it off. And Okposo's expiring 6M would eat up a good chunk of whatever they extended him at. Buffalo is already one of the highest scoring teams in the league - it's pretty much a 3-way tie between Edmonton, Boston and Buffalo. It's not really in the top-6 where they need help. Would feel like wasting cap space and trade assets to fix something that doesn't really need fixing. Would be fun to watch though. Friedman believes NJD is the team to beat in the Meier sweepstake. Edited February 2 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I could see Boeser going to Minnisota for Mats Zuccarello (35 year old RW at 6m for 1 more year) Then minnisota adding a prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: I could see Boeser going to Minnisota for Mats Zuccarello (35 year old RW at 6m for 1 more year) Then minnisota adding a prospect Can't see it. Zuccarello is a better player than Boeser and cheaper - there's no reason for them to downgrade and upset their star player. Kaprizov and Zuccarello have insane chemistry and are really tight off the ice - that would just upset Kaprizov. Bowness compares their chemistry to the Sedins. Keeping Kaprizov once Zuccarello retires might well be a challenge for the Wild. Edited February 2 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 54 minutes ago, mll said: Adding a player who doesn't seem the best fit is not going to make them a better team. Their speed is their competitive advantage and Boeser doesn't have speed. A powerforward vs a slow perimeter winger - seems like a rather easy choice. Meier brings elements they lack in their lineup and their top-6 is rather slight. He already has existing chemistry with Hischier and fits their age group. It will be tough to fit him and Bratt cap wise but maybe it will motivate both to take more reasonable deals given the team they are building there. Bratt could well find himself on the outs if he continues to ask for the moon - he refused to negotiate last season where he asked for more than Hughes on a long term deal and told NJD take it or leave it. If he does not make them a better team, well, no. Boeser makes them better. Meier just makes them >>> better, better. He is bigger, faster, stronger. Could be the next $70 Mill dollar man? There is opportunity cost. And has to be weighed up against the at $65 Mill plus they probably have to commit to him. Two or Three 1st rounds assets to acquire him. They might? He would be the 4th BIG contract. And they get a few years with some ELC players, if they have not sacrificed them to acquire Meiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Meier is / was really the class of the deadline available players. Yes Bo? Partly Canadian hype, I take Meier's over Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I could really see Boeser for Mantha. Would love for it to be Miller for Mantha (they have cap to work with in the offseason) but Mantha is the type of project player Allvin seems to target and if it doesn't work out, his contract is up in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: If he does not make them a better team, well, no. Boeser makes them better. Meier just makes them >>> better, better. He is bigger, faster, stronger. Could be the next $70 Mill dollar man? There is opportunity cost. And has to be weighed up against the at $65 Mill plus they probably have to commit to him. Two or Three 1st rounds assets to acquire him. They might? He would be the 4th BIG contract. And they get a few years with some ELC players, if they have not sacrificed them to acquire Meiers. Boeser would slow them down when speed is what gives them the edge over other teams. They can't make the Nashville mistake and forget that teams around them can get faster too. NJD a young team and they have a deep prospect pool - there won't be room for everyone. It's not like they have that many veterans that need to be replaced and the vets are more guys they can find in free agency. Boeser retained is also not going to come for free - the differential in cost to go for Meier instead might not be all that high. The Meier return is also going to be influenced by what other teams are willing to offer. He has that 10M QO which could also diminish his return if he refuses to negotiate an extension. All depends what Meier is chasing - wins or money. So far there's no progress on an extension with Bratt and past negotiations have been really complicated with his side even refusing to negotiate last summer. Fitzgerald has now said at least a couple of times that players also have to make an effort if they want them to be able to build a contender. Ideally they manage to get both Bratt and Meier but Bratt might price himself out. Edited February 2 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see Boeser traded to Calgary. They have openly said they are looking for a scoring winger They will have Lucic contract coming off the books next year so the term of Boesers deal isn’t a concern The Canucks could take back Lucic to maximize return Calgary can't afford Boeser's cap hit next season (and that is even after Lucic's contract expires). They have $3m in cap space and only 15 players signed. They will be looking to clear cap, not take on cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I say we play Boeser and Garland in the top 6 rest of the year: Kuzmenko-Petey-Boeser/Garland Beauvillier-Miller-Garland/Boeser Really get their production up with great opportunities, and have Boeser on PP1z Really get Boeser going to pump his production up for a draft / summer trade and perhaps even right before the TDL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 49 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: Calgary can't afford Boeser's cap hit next season (and that is even after Lucic's contract expires). They have $3m in cap space and only 15 players signed. They will be looking to clear cap, not take on cap. They have Kylington & Tanev to come off IR. Its not just 15 signed, with those guys its fully 19. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flames Including their * Top 6 D; Andersson, Hanifin, Tanev, Zadorov, Weeger & Kylington. * Top 8 Forwards; Lindholm, Huberdeau, Kadri, Mangiapane, Backlund, Toffoli, Dube & Coleman * TopG's Markstrom + Vladar, prospect Wolf. It leaves a D prospect, a F prospect & some depth pickups to round out the team. You would be absolutely correct in saying they don't have cap space! However, they only have to shed, if they want to make a splash. I expect Pelletier or Connor Zary to make the team, both are PT/Game in AHL, maybe Kuznetsov as 7th D. Plus two UFA depth guys, PTO's or similar. Could be Mike Stone, Nick Ritchie as re-signs. They have missed Kylington this year. Pelletier & Zary will add team speed, some skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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