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1 hour ago, R3aL said:

I say we play Boeser and Garland in the top 6 rest of the year:

 

Kuzmenko-Petey-Boeser/Garland

Beauvillier-Miller-Garland/Boeser

 

Really get their production up with great opportunities, and have Boeser on PP1z
 

Really get Boeser going to pump his production up for a draft / summer trade and perhaps even right before the TDL. 

If the trade makes sense the time is now. We have too much cap allocated to wingers and the identity of this team needs to change. 

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8 hours ago, R3aL said:

I say we play Boeser and Garland in the top 6 rest of the year:

 

Kuzmenko-Petey-Boeser/Garland

Beauvillier-Miller-Garland/Boeser

 

Really get their production up with great opportunities, and have Boeser on PP1z
 

Really get Boeser going to pump his production up for a draft / summer trade and perhaps even right before the TDL. 

Toc wants to plays a more defence first style so production will likely drop across the board. 
It’s pretty crappy top 6, really we have 3 maybe 4 top 6 players 

This line up really should yield a high pick! ( this year and next) 

especially if we move Shenn boeser  Demko before the TDL. 
 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, R3aL said:

I say we play Boeser and Garland in the top 6 rest of the year:

 

Kuzmenko-Petey-Boeser/Garland

Beauvillier-Miller-Garland/Boeser

 

Really get their production up with great opportunities, and have Boeser on PP1z
 

Really get Boeser going to pump his production up for a draft / summer trade and perhaps even right before the TDL. 

Ummm, this has already been happening with zero effect, Boes was moved onto Petey's line for a while, and he replaced Kuz on PP1 (Who was our top PP scorer!) and Boes's numbers did not go up.

 

Garland was moved to play with Miller and Horvat and given PP2 time, and his numbers did not go up.

 

Team has been trying to pump these guys up for a while. They just aren't good production players.

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11 hours ago, mll said:

Buffalo is already one of the highest scoring teams in the league - it's pretty much a 3-way tie between Edmonton, Boston and Buffalo.  It's not really in the top-6 where they need help.  Would feel like wasting cap space and trade assets to fix something that doesn't really need fixing.  Would be fun to watch though. 

 

Friedman believes NJD is the team to beat in the Meier sweepstake. 

 

It's true, they don't reaaaallly need him, but I could see it. They've got the space and the assets, it'd make their top six even more formidable. 

 

Although yes, they need to beef up their bottom six and probably find some veteran defensive presence to add to their defense. A reliable platoon tender would help but it looks like they've got their tender of the future already playing in Luukkonen. 

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credit to @billabong

 

 

 

To all those that claim "we would have moved Boeser already if anyone wanted him" ^^^^

 

There's been next to NO movement, league-wide. Boeser was never getting moved until closer to the TDL, if we move him at all (might be a summer trade).

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10 hours ago, R3aL said:

I say we play Boeser and Garland in the top 6 rest of the year:

 

Kuzmenko-Petey-Boeser/Garland

Beauvillier-Miller-Garland/Boeser

 

Really get their production up with great opportunities, and have Boeser on PP1z
 

Really get Boeser going to pump his production up for a draft / summer trade and perhaps even right before the TDL. 

ugh, that's so bad.

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59 minutes ago, stawns said:

ugh, that's so bad.

 

Isn't that good though?

 

55 minutes ago, billabong said:

Wait till you see the bottom 6….

 

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Do we want to kill it down he stretch?

 

Probably going to have AHL guys mixed in with Studnika and Joshua getting elevated opportunities.

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3 hours ago, JayDangles said:

Ummm, this has already been happening with zero effect, Boes was moved onto Petey's line for a while, and he replaced Kuz on PP1 (Who was our top PP scorer!) and Boes's numbers did not go up.

 

Garland was moved to play with Miller and Horvat and given PP2 time, and his numbers did not go up.

 

Team has been trying to pump these guys up for a while. They just aren't good production players.

Boeser has had games on PP1 for a little stretch but in a position that was new to him. His best spot on the PP is in JT Millers spot. I am curious how this changes with Horvat gone and I am not sure he works in the bumper. Was his handedness makes it hard to be fed for a quick shot by JT like how JT would pass to Bo.

 

And to be fair too Boeser he has looked a little better in the past 5-10 games I think. Not amazing but def trending in an improved direction.

 

Id say Boeser is a good production player. Quietly produces even when playing badly. Last year and this year he's collected quite a lot of points without being a PP1 main stay and not being very good in general.

 

I think we can find a away to boost him and garland with the new coaches, and with intention of continually giving them opportunities to succeed in the right way.

 

And I hope we are able to trade them for something that helps us a little more than salary space.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, R3aL said:

I say we play Boeser and Garland in the top 6 rest of the year:

 

Kuzmenko-Petey-Boeser/Garland

Beauvillier-Miller-Garland/Boeser

 

Really get their production up with great opportunities, and have Boeser on PP1z
 

Really get Boeser going to pump his production up for a draft / summer trade and perhaps even right before the TDL. 

I mean, we kind of have to with Bo gone and Mikheyev down for the year. Unless they really wanna disrespect Boeser and stick Burroughs, Studs,or Lazar in the top 6 instead. I wouldn't put it past our team to do something like that.

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13 minutes ago, R3aL said:

Boeser has had games on PP1 for a little stretch but in a position that was new to him. His best spot on the PP is in JT Millers spot. I am curious how this changes with Horvat gone and I am not sure he works in the bumper. Was his handedness makes it hard to be fed for a quick shot by JT like how JT would pass to Bo.

 

And to be fair too Boeser he has looked a little better in the past 5-10 games I think. Not amazing but def trending in an improved direction.

 

Id say Boeser is a good production player. Quietly produces even when playing badly. Last year and this year he's collected quite a lot of points without being a PP1 main stay and not being very good in general.

 

I think we can find a away to boost him and garland with the new coaches, and with intention of continually giving them opportunities to succeed in the right way.

 

And I hope we are able to trade them for something that helps us a little more than salary space.

 

 

 

I've always thought we should put Boeser on the left wing, Petey on the right wing and Hughes at the point for the pp.  Hughes just needs to pass it to either wing and let them rip 1T's.   2 guys with the best slappers on the team getting set up for shots.  Alas, we may never see that.

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Boeser has low trade value now and still has more potential to show. He is only 25 and was seriously sidelined with injury which affected his development. I think his body frame is naturally bulky as opposed to being long and lean, more built for speed so speed will never be his strong point but he could improve. Perhaps trying a vegan diet would be good for him. Teams look at him now as an overpriced ok player. We sold Horvat when is value was at a career high. I think Brock will get better by next year. If we can afford to keep him until next years trade deadline and give him top minutes to boost his stats his trade value will be higher. Unless someone really wants him now and will pay a decent price I think its better to trade him next season if we can afford it. 

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11 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said:

They have Kylington & Tanev to come off IR.  Its not just 15 signed, with those guys its fully 19.  https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flames

 

Including their

* Top 6 D; Andersson, Hanifin, Tanev, Zadorov, Weeger & Kylington.

* Top 8 Forwards; Lindholm, Huberdeau, Kadri, Mangiapane, Backlund, Toffoli, Dube & Coleman

* TopG's  Markstrom + Vladar, prospect Wolf.

 

It leaves a D prospect, a F prospect & some depth pickups to round out the team.

 

You would be absolutely correct in saying they don't have cap space!  However, they only have to shed, if they want to make a splash. I expect Pelletier or Connor Zary to make the team, both are PT/Game in AHL, maybe Kuznetsov as 7th D.   Plus two UFA depth guys, PTO's or similar. Could be Mike Stone, Nick Ritchie as re-signs. They have missed Kylington this year.  Pelletier & Zary will add team speed, some skill. 

 

You're right about one thing - it's not 15 players signed next season. But if you add Tanev + Kylington then it's only 17 signed (not 19).

 

So they have $2.9m to add 4 more players. Not even possible when minimum league salary is $775,000. They will have to move some cap out just to complete a 23 man roster. Or run with a 21 man roster and the 3 additions are likely Pelletier, Zary + Stone.

 

If they wanted to add Boeser at $6.65m, who are they moving out? Just resigned Huberdeau and Weegar. Can't move Kadri or Markstrom (NMC). Would have to be a couple of lesser paid players, like Backlund, Mangiapane or Toffoli, plus Zadorov, just to create the room. Both Mangiapane and Toffoli are outperforming Boeser at much cheaper contracts, so don't see why they would even consider it. Backlund is one of only 4 centers on the roster (even with Zary added do they risk running with only 4 centers).

 

What is good for Vancouver is that Calgary is supposed to be a contender right now, and they are nowhere near good enough. Plus they are in cap hell and they have a bunch of big anchor contracts that cannot be moved. They are in a worse position than VAN right now imo. We should let them suffer.

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3 minutes ago, BigTramFan said:

You're right about one thing - it's not 15 players signed next season. But if you add Tanev + Kylington then it's only 17 signed (not 19).

 

So they have $2.9m to add 4 more players. Not even possible when minimum league salary is $775,000. They will have to move some cap out just to complete a 23 man roster. Or run with a 21 man roster and the 3 additions are likely Pelletier, Zary + Stone.

 

If they wanted to add Boeser at $6.65m, who are they moving out? Just resigned Huberdeau and Weegar. Can't move Kadri or Markstrom (NMC). Would have to be a couple of lesser paid players, like Backlund, Mangiapane or Toffoli, plus Zadorov, just to create the room. Both Mangiapane and Toffoli are outperforming Boeser at much cheaper contracts, so don't see why they would even consider it. Backlund is one of only 4 centers on the roster (even with Zary added do they risk running with only 4 centers).

 

What is good for Vancouver is that Calgary is supposed to be a contender right now, and they are nowhere near good enough. Plus they are in cap hell and they have a bunch of big anchor contracts that cannot be moved. They are in a worse position than VAN right now imo. We should let them suffer.

Yup, the biggest way Calgary can help us is by taking another winger (who's expiring this year) off the market, from other teams also looking to upgrade. Then the teams that missed out, can circle back to us/Boeser.

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18 hours ago, R3aL said:

I say we play Boeser and Garland in the top 6 rest of the year:

 

Kuzmenko-Petey-Boeser/Garland

Beauvillier-Miller-Garland/Boeser

 

Really get their production up with great opportunities, and have Boeser on PP1z
 

Really get Boeser going to pump his production up for a draft / summer trade and perhaps even right before the TDL. 

Things like this are up to the coach?  But I agree wholeheartedly! PP1 time for Boeser! 

 

There is no question Boeser's #'s are as much down!  Due to Horvat & Miller playing PP1. As lingering injury, & staleness. Petey's #'s were also down last year when Miller started playing centre, taking some of his minutes. The key now, is for him to grab minutes & take advantage of it.    

 

Can Boeser get his high slot / left side spot back in Ovechkin's alley to unleash his shot?  Have Miller play bumper, Kuzmenko in Gretzky's office...

 

 

Or learn to battle in front of the net, tips, rebounds..., Bo learned how?  Follow the 'leader.' Key to success!

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On 2/2/2023 at 7:25 PM, Canuck Surfer said:

Things like this are up to the coach?  But I agree wholeheartedly! PP1 time for Boeser! 

 

There is no question Boeser's #'s are as much down!  Due to Horvat & Miller playing PP1. As lingering injury, & staleness. Petey's #'s were also down last year when Miller started playing centre, taking some of his minutes. The key now, is for him to grab minutes & take advantage of it.    

 

Can Boeser get his high slot / left side spot back in Ovechkin's alley to unleash his shot?  Have Miller play bumper, Kuzmenko in Gretzky's office...

 

 

Or learn to battle in front of the net, tips, rebounds..., Bo learned how?  Follow the 'leader.' Key to success!

I read a few weeks back that Brock has been working on his tips specifically.

 

He’s also been getting more shots off lately, and could see him putting it together soon on a line with Petey or Miller.

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Just read an article from a writer who covers the Caps and he advocates a Boeser for Anthony Mantha deal. In his words, a swap of two players who need a fresh start.

 

The players are making similar money, but the advantage here for the Canucks is that Mantha has one less year before his contract is up.

 

He also mentioned Lars Eller, which makes more sense for the Canucks (if a pick or prospect is included) but Washington would likely ask the Canucks to retain salary on that one.

 

Thoughts?

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4 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Just read an article from a writer who covers the Caps and he advocates a Boeser for Anthony Mantha deal. In his words, a swap of two players who need a fresh start.

 

The players are making similar money, but the advantage here for the Canucks is that Mantha has one less year before his contract is up.

 

He also mentioned Lars Eller, which makes more sense for the Canucks (if a pick or prospect is included) but Washington would likely ask the Canucks to retain salary on that one.

 

Thoughts?

Am I too much the pessimist? Boeser takes the bumper spot and on the first shift takes a puck in a knee or the head. Out for the season. Or maybe he will be lucky and the shot comes from Hughes in which case no problems. PA has to move him while he is healthy!

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1 minute ago, Boudrias said:

Am I too much the pessimist? Boeser takes the bumper spot and on the first shift takes a puck in a knee or the head. Out for the season. Or maybe he will be lucky and the shot comes from Hughes in which case no problems. PA has to move him while he is healthy!

It's always a risk. The deal above is more about getting out from under Boes' contract. I doubt Anthony Mantha or Lars Eller would be in the long term plans for the Canucks.

 

Still your point has merit. If you want to move on from Bo and free up Cap space, it's best to pull the trigger. Conversely, if you're looking for a deal that impacts the long-term prospects of the team, you probably look elsewhere....preferably somewhere where the Cap isn't an issue and they have Draft/Prospect capital to spend.

 

Not sure where that might be though....:unsure:

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