Coconuts Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) I'm a little surprised I haven't seen this pop up, could be I just missed it but I'll post it anyway. I only really listened for the Kuzmenko bits He definitely mentions they won't be talking about an extension til the end of the season or closer to that time at 2:30 Says not to expect anything any time soon Agent doesn't seem to have concerns about his lack of an NHL track record, cites his professional and international play 3:38 the trade deadline question comes up and the agent responds never say never regarding a possible trade, mentions the relationship with the team and and continuing talks If the Canucks are out of it that could lead to some tense times leading up to the deadline (he didn't say that, it's just true) Kuzmenko doesn't follow the news, not surprising, just focuses on his game For what it's worth he's also Evander Kane's agent if that means anything https://puckpedia.com/agent/daniel-milstein Edited December 5, 2022 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 Letting him walk as a UFA cannot be an option. If that happens, I'm out until the entire management team is fired. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Letting him walk as a UFA cannot be an option. If that happens, I'm out until the entire management team is fired. Agreed, although I'm definitely in favour of trading him if we're out of it closer to the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Money bags Millstein. Would be best not to trade for that guys clients. Got a feeling he’s going to try and squeeze them for every last dollar or threaten to walk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckpuckluck1 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Kuzmenko has been great. But he is a hot commodity that should be sold at peak price. With this teams defensive woes its time to sell the best assets for great returns to fix those issues. Although he is an excellent asset, he is just another winger (we have a plethora of them in the system - maybe not as advanced but they may get there) who can get us a good return. The management currently needs to be finding as many of these opportunities and selling high to get a good return. Rinse and repeat!!! Edited December 5, 2022 by canuckpuckluck1 added extra info 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Money bags Millstein. Would be best not to trade for that guys clients. Got a feeling he’s going to try and squeeze them for every last dollar or threaten to walk. I think Kuz will probably want at least $6M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, BPA said: I think Kuz will probably want at least $6M. If that's the case you trade him at the deadline. Even if he puts up 70 points this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, BPA said: I think Kuz will probably want at least $6M. Which would be a huge gamble. Prove that you can drive play and not just rack up points playing with Petey first. If that’s what they’re asking for trade him to a contender looking for cheap scoring for a 1st. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Bo and Kuz are the best trading chips and both should be moved at TDL. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, BPA said: I think Kuz will probably want at least $6M. Yup, he should 100% be traded. We broke. Need assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, J-23 said: Bo and Kuz are the best trading chips and both should be moved at TDL. Don't forget Huggy bear 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, naslund.is.king said: Don't forget Huggy bear 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Truth hurts i know. hes not the type of player you build a defense around. He compliments a strong defensive group which we don't have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Green Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 At 950K there could be a pretty good bidding war at the deadline, can't see them holding on to him past that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Which would be a huge gamble. Prove that you can drive play and not just rack up points playing with Petey first. If that’s what they’re asking for trade him to a contender looking for cheap scoring for a 1st. Lol. That’s not how it’s going to work. His agent will point out that Kuz is getting more points than Garland ($4.95M) and Boeser ($6.65M). And look at comparable players in the league. If true that Kuz can’t sign an extension until July 1st, Canucks are truly gambling that they can outbid other teams to get Kuz back. EDIT: it’s January 1st. So Canucks still have time before TDL. Edited December 5, 2022 by BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BPA said: Lol. That’s not how it’s going to work. His agent will point out that Kuz is getting more points than Garland ($4.95M) and Boeser ($6.65M). And look at comparable players in the league. If true that Kuz can’t sign an extension until July 1st, Canucks are truly gambling that they can outbid other teams to get Kuz back. Also not how it works. Those other players have proven themselves for more than one season. No one’s paying 6 mil for a powerplay specialist. If they think teams are gonna hand an unproven KHLer a fat contract for one season I say good luck. I think teams saw the lesson learned with Gusev. Edited December 5, 2022 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Money bags Millstein. Would be best not to trade for that guys clients. Got a feeling he’s going to try and squeeze them for every last dollar or threaten to walk. Probably, he's done a pretty great job at getting his other top Russian clients their bag. If he puts up 60+ points he's getting paaaiiidddd. 26 minutes ago, canuckpuckluck1 said: Kuzmenko has been great. But he is a hot commodity that should be sold at peak price. With this teams defensive woes its time to sell the best assets for great returns to fix those issues. Although he is an excellent asset, he is just another winger (we have a plethora of them in the system - maybe not as advanced but they may get there) who can get us a good return. The management currently needs to be finding as many of these opportunities and selling high to get a good return. Rinse and repeat!!! Yes 22 minutes ago, BPA said: I think Kuz will probably want at least $6M. And 6-8 years I'd imagine. 15 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Which would be a huge gamble. Prove that you can drive play and not just rack up points playing with Petey first. If that’s what they’re asking for trade him to a contender looking for cheap scoring for a 1st. Yeah, I'm not thrilled at the prospect of giving a guy with one NHL season to his name a big, expensive contract. He'd probably get it via UFA though if he puts up 60-80 points. Especially if the cap jumps 3-4M+, GM's gonna GM. 14 minutes ago, J-23 said: Bo and Kuz are the best trading chips and both should be moved at TDL. Agreed. 10 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said: Truth hurts i know. hes not the type of player you build a defense around. He compliments a strong defensive group which we don't have. And honestly, if he's not scoring he's not really doing much. He's a one dimensional scoring winger with 3 hits and 9 blocks in 24 games. 9 minutes ago, Kelly Green said: At 950K there could be a pretty good bidding war at the deadline, can't see them holding on to him past that point. Oh def, any playoff bound team could fit him in. Edited December 5, 2022 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 If you are trading Bo and Kuz-- don't wait till the deadline. Either of them could get injured, or your return gets diluted because fewer teams will bid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Gurn said: If you are trading Bo and Kuz-- don't wait till the deadline. Either of them could get injured, or your return gets diluted because fewer teams will bid Agreed, an injury to either him or Horvat would be devastating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said: Truth hurts i know. hes not the type of player you build a defense around. He compliments a strong defensive group which we don't have. It depends. If we can build a strong defensive core outside of Hughes, it can work. Hughes, is still fairly young so there may be room for improvement defensively. In a couple of years, if it’s the same story, then I fully agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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