RetroCanuck Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I’d take a third from Calgary or second from Boston. Otherwise it would have to be an enticing reclamation project 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Push come to shove I'd probably take a 3rd, odds are he comes back anyway if he likes it here as much as he says he does. I do think we get more though, we'll see. Eastern teams are starting to load up, could see a Schenn trade happening sooner than later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 17 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Push come to shove I'd probably take a 3rd, odds are he comes back anyway if he likes it here as much as he says he does. I do think we get more though, we'll see. Eastern teams are starting to load up, could see a Schenn trade happening sooner than later. I'd rather have a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, stawns said: I'd rather have a player. Yes, I'm well aware where you stand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, KKnight said: Read today that Dhaliwal says we haven't received one offer including a 2nd round pick. I find that VERY hard to believe. Not me. CDC loves to over value their players. I remember last year Motte was supposed to get a first. He got a fourth. The reality is teams will probably not going to want to pony up that much for a guy who may or may not play and is purely depth. Maybe in a bidding war at the last minute or if a top team has a last second injury but I wouldn't be holding my breath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Last minute deal we'll get a 3rd and a 4th, and he'll circle back to us in the summer. All good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 4 hours ago, RetroCanuck said: I’d take a third from Calgary or second from Boston. Otherwise it would have to be an enticing reclamation project Yup, a third is still a decent draft pick. It's a free RD, Center, or G. We need these more than hugs and kisses and sentimentality. If he really loves hockey and wants to play still we'll sign him back next year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, mll said: Compares it to the Motte situation where there was interest but went for a 4th. Sekeres and Price are the worst. They predict the worst possible scenario for the Canucks consistently. They say nothing when things go well and crow incessantly when things don’t. Edited February 18 by Screw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 7 hours ago, Screw said: Sekeres and Price are the worst. They predict the worst possible scenario for the Canucks consistently. They say nothing when things go well and crow incessantly when things don’t. Because it draws viewers and creates discussion. They're Weasels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 8 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Yup, a third is still a decent draft pick. It's a free RD, Center, or G. We need these more than hugs and kisses and sentimentality. If he really loves hockey and wants to play still we'll sign him back next year. IMO PA will take a 3rd rdr for Schenn but wait to the end of the month in hopes of a better offer. The TO trade likely speeds up the rate of deals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 48 minutes ago, Boudrias said: IMO PA will take a 3rd rdr for Schenn but wait to the end of the month in hopes of a better offer. The TO trade likely speeds up the rate of deals. I think Schenn has become more valuable to TO and it's a deal that makes the most sense. By acquiring Schenn, TO would probably become the team to beat, even more than Car. Then, dangle Miller to Car for JK and a pick.......leverage them against each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, stawns said: I think Schenn has become more valuable to TO and it's a deal that makes the most sense. By acquiring Schenn, TO would probably become the team to beat, even more than Car. Then, dangle Miller to Car for JK and a pick.......leverage them against each other. I was with you until you cut me with the Miller talk…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: I was with you until you cut me with the Miller talk…. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, stawns said: Why? Miller is a highly regarded by many of us. I know you’re not in that group. Losing Miller would be upsetting to many of us. I see continued value in him staying after the Re-tool/major surgery is done with. At the end of the day it’s management and RT that decides Miller’s future and I believe they are not entertaining any moves unless they get an offer they can’t refuse (keep in mind Carolina 1st are like 2nds). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 27 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Miller is a highly regarded by many of us. I know you’re not in that group. Losing Miller would be upsetting to many of us. I see continued value in him staying after the Re-tool/major surgery is done with. At the end of the day it’s management and RT that decides Miller’s future and I believe they are not entertaining any moves unless they get an offer they can’t refuse (keep in mind Carolina 1st are like 2nds). Actually, I've said many times there is a lot I love about his game and Id say I placed more value on him at this time last year than most of his cheerleaders who all thought he'd be in the $7's. Once they got rid of Bo, their core age dropped and Miller is even more out of the compete window and there's an arms race going on in the east (as I said there would be when the traded bo 5 weeks before the tdl). Are you saying you wouldn't like a haul like the Blues just got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stawns said: Actually, I've said many times there is a lot I love about his game and Id say I placed more value on him at this time last year than most of his cheerleaders who all thought he'd be in the $7's. Once they got rid of Bo, their core age dropped and Miller is even more out of the compete window and there's an arms race going on in the east (as I said there would be when the traded bo 5 weeks before the tdl). Are you saying you wouldn't like a haul like the Blues just got? ROR is a rental. Miller is cost certainty for next 7 years. Miller’s value is more to our team than what ROR was to the Blues due to the fact that he was expiring out with no extension in the works (like Bo). Miller is younger than ROR and is worth more. We are also a very young team, one of the youngest in the league….having a veteran through the Re-tool stage and beyond is very valuable. Edited February 18 by grandmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: ROR is a rental. Miller is cost certainty for next 7 years. Miller’s value is more to our team than what ROR was to the Blues due to the fact that he was expiring out with no extension in the works (like Bo). Miller is younger than ROR and is worth more. We are also a very young team, one of the youngest in the league….having a veteran through the Re-tool stage and beyond is very valuable. Not taking up $8.3m a year he's not, especially as he's come back down to normal and will be declining year by year. The cap space is far more valuable than a declining miller will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, stawns said: Not taking up $8.3m a year he's not, especially as he's come back down to normal and will be declining year by year. The cap space is far more valuable than a declining miller will ever be. I think we have other more pressing Cap space issues with Brock, OEL, Myers and Garland. All of these guys are underperforming far more and need addressing well before you target someone like Miller for Cap space. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: I think we have other more pressing Cap space issues with Brock, OEL, Myers and Garland. All of these guys are underperforming far more and need addressing well before you target someone like Miller for Cap space. But those guys are all going to need sweeteners to move. I think there's a team out there who would take Miller and his deal, if the price is right. I think his contract is fair value for what he provides, it's just not right for Van. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, stawns said: Not taking up $8.3m a year he's not, especially as he's come back down to normal and will be declining year by year. The cap space is far more valuable than a declining miller will ever be. If Boeser and Garland are moved then maybe more of a case to retain Miller if the market is not offering a stunner deal. Pearson likely not back. That leaves Petey with the 2 Russians. 3 if you keep Podz. None of them are real vets other than Mik. Thin. If Miller attracts a great offer then PA has to take it and look to supplement with UFA signings. Term and age is not advantageous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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