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If you listened by the by, Barry paused for a very obvious moment when asked about Pettersson staying in vancouver.  his answers became VERY political and diplomatic after that

 

At this point with horvat leaving, Boeser being shopped, no help coming from the prospect bins on the defensive end of things and Kuzmenko thus far playing himself in to a league average $7+ million contract based on projected point totals at years end.

They better sell him on the future fast because the short term with this team will be a mess without significant change.  Sell every possible asset they can to obtain futures over the next 2-3 years and build around him Demko Hughes and Podkolzin by supplementing those trade returns with higher value draft picks of their own

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

At this point with horvat leaving, Boeser being shopped, no help coming from the prospect bins on the defensive end of things and Kuzmenko thus far playing himself in to a league average $7+ million contract based on projected point totals at years end.

They better sell him on the future fast because the short term with this team will be a mess without significant change and a move towards the future.

 

If you listened by the by, Barry paused for a very obvious moment when asked about Pettersson staying in vancouver.  his answers became VERY political and diplomatic after that

If Petey gets locked up into that contract, he’s not going to want to leave anywhere IMO. He paused because he’s got carefully answer these questions and not say the wrong thing.

 

This team has 4-5 more years to get its shit together before he gets to that point where he’s going to want to look elsewhere.

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2 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

They’re comparable right now.

 

Wont be if Petey puts up 100 points…

 

 

Which is why I lowkey want him to finish just under 100 pts and sign him quickly over the summer. The longer we wait, the more he could want.

 

The thing is, I don’t mind giving a guy like him however much he wants. He’s going to be the face of the franchise full time with Bo leaving. Though hopefully he takes some sort of a discount to help better allocate the cap for others.

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If we get Pettersson re-signed long term for under 10 I’ll consider that a bargain bordering on a steal. Especially if the cap does go up significantly. In 2-3 years that contract might be looking pretty damn cheap for what other guys would be getting and we’d still have 5 or so more years of him being locked up. I hope management can get that done, it would really be beneficial for the Canucks future.

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24 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

If you listened by the by, Barry paused for a very obvious moment when asked about Pettersson staying in vancouver.  his answers became VERY political and diplomatic after that

 

At this point with horvat leaving, Boeser being shopped, no help coming from the prospect bins on the defensive end of things and Kuzmenko thus far playing himself in to a league average $7+ million contract based on projected point totals at years end.

They better sell him on the future fast because the short term with this team will be a mess without significant change.  Sell every possible asset they can to obtain futures over the next 2-3 years and build around him Demko Hughes and Podkolzin by supplementing those trade returns with higher value draft picks of their own

 

 

I honestly feel like the only guys I want to see on the team in 2-3 years is

 

Pettersson

Podkolzin

Kuzmenko

Hughes

Demko (if he bounces back...I think he will...he's too good)

Bear

 

Wild cards depending on how they progress:

Hoglander (the effort is there, and I'm seeing improvement...the goals just aren't going in for him for whatever reason)

Studnicka

Aman (Sneaky good defensively, fast and has size....they found something here he's a smart player)

Rathbone (There is still a player there, he's only 23. Players develop at different ages. He's a PPG in the AHL and just needs a little more confidence and better d partners)

 

 

Add and build around them, character guys and some defensive players to support them. Develop some help in the AHL to bring up and supplement (Klimovich, McDonagh, Lockwood, Lekkerimaki, other prospects etc) Don't bring them up too soon. 

 

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Well he has a chance to show that isn't just an agent keeping his player's options open.  Of course Petey would want to stay a Canuck if the price was right.

July 1st he will have a chance to put pen to paper on a new contract... Barzal would be a good comparable and if you make that a max term deal it would likely stay a decent value with a rising cap.  If he wants $10 million plus or doesn't sign right away, then you trade him in the summer when you have the leverage and lots of teams who missed out on big UFA targets are looking for help.

None of this nonsense of waiting until the player has the leverage and puts the boots to us on contract value like what happened with Miller and looks to be happening with Horvat.

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October 2021;

 

“I want to stay there (Vancouver), now but I also want to play for a team that’s winning and has a chance to go far into the playoffs every year, I feel like we’ve got a chance to do that next year If we have that chance when my next deal expires. I don’t know. I just want to play where there’s a chance of winning.”

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, ToTellTheTruth said:

October 2021;

 

“I want to stay there (Vancouver), now but I also want to play for a team that’s winning and has a chance to go far into the playoffs every year, I feel like we’ve got a chance to do that next year If we have that chance when my next deal expires. I don’t know. I just want to play where there’s a chance of winning.”

 

 

 

Which is why there’s no way there will be a rebuild.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Which is why there’s no way there will be a rebuild.

 

 

No cap space for improvement, no good enough players available, no rebuild but no playoffs either so bye bye Petey. Then a rebuild.

 

They have the next 18 months to become contenders from this group.

 

If it was that easy why hasn't it happened before?

 

Other teams are getting better faster with more upside, younger players getting better, the Canucks just don't have the assets, I guess they could trade away more draft picks for older FA's Maybe trade this year's first for Hedman? Or Ekblad? Or Doughty? Some aging vet on the backside of his contract.

 

How do they get better? How long? Which decade?

 

If EP decides to go then he goes, this is not slavery anymore. If he decides he wants to try for a cup he has only very few times he can make that happen, contract time

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1 minute ago, naslund.is.king said:

Cause of petey? 

Think it has more to do with ownership 

He was pretty clear, he isn't about the country club, he wants to win.

 

FYI that is also the sentiment of Horvat;

“I want to win,” said Horvat. “I'm getting tired of being out of the playoffs and not being able to fight for the Stanley Cup.”

 

Seems some player still think winning is more important than merely being professionals, Euor's who think the WC and Olympics are more important and the NHL is just a way to make money. Not all Euro's just the "professionals"

 

Ownership notices when seats are empty and bags are on heads.

 

Rutherford still has some runway yet and the silence from the front office is deafening. Something is percolating

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