RU SERIOUS Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Insider Elliotte Friedaman confirmed on HNIC during the Jets game what we all suspected, that everyone on the Canucks roster is now up for grabs - except EP40 - the only untouchable one.. Even QH, although he stated that the offer would have to be astronomical. Edited December 19, 2022 by RU SERIOUS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Yeah, I saw that. After Covid, I just have not had the care to watch hockey and another rebuild with a management that I think is garbage. Well, I guess that means my time here is almost at an end. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 SOLD!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mackcanuck Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) So, Do what then President Trevor Linden wanted to do 4 years ago when he was kicked to the curb! He said "the team would be competitive in 4 years time" Edited December 18, 2022 by Mackcanuck 2 4 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 24K PureCool Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Bold of them to think EP40 would not request a trade out of here. Edited December 18, 2022 by 24K PureCool 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post You Mad Bro? Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 Hey Canucks management 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 hours ago, FaninMex said: Yeah, I saw that. After Covid, I just have not had the care to watch hockey and another rebuild with a management that I think is garbage. Well, I guess that means my time here is almost at an end. We rebuilt before? We’ve been crap, that’s true. But when did we rebuild? Keenan and Burke? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazzle Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 It's so sad to see that this management couldn't recognize what needed to be done. Trading Miller should've been their priority this summer because of cap issues. Instead, they thought re-signing him would help this team make it into the playoffs, while ignoring the issues that had been discussed about depth. In short, Miller was a luxury that the team couldn't afford. We can see now that he is a good player, but not what the Canucks actually needed to improve. My hope is that the Canucks can get a good offer for him. The Canucks should've re-signed Horvat instead. Now he may want out - and I don't blame him for multiple reasons. New management did pretty good with UFA signings and a couple of trades, but as we can see, this team is a mess. 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, 24K PureCool said: Bold of them to think EP40 would not request a trade out of here. This is my biggest fear. Pettersson on most nights is the only fun thing going on in a canuck game and if they were to some how manage to drive him out of town would be tragic. They must find to a way to build a winning team around him and keep the young man happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dazzle said: It's so sad to see that this management couldn't recognize what needed to be done. Trading Miller should've been their priority this summer because of cap issues. Instead, they thought re-signing him would help this team make it into the playoffs, while ignoring the issues that had been discussed about depth. In short, Miller was a luxury that the team couldn't afford. We can see now that he is a good player, but not what the Canucks actually needed to improve. My hope is that the Canucks can get a good offer for him. The Canucks should've re-signed Horvat instead. Now he may want out - and I don't blame him for multiple reasons. New management did pretty good with UFA signings and a couple of trades, but as we can see, this team is a mess. Miller was taken off the market, as reported by Freidman and posted here before, 2 weeks prior to the 2022 TDL and we announced we were going to sign him. Our owner refuses to trade core players for futures. Chytil, Lundquist and Rags’ first was futures. I Bash Benning but maybe being hamstrung by an owner’s foolish direction to only make “win now” moves is impossible to overcome? The question is: will this management stand up to the owner like Nonis, Gillis, and Linden did? If they do, hopefully, then what does the owner do? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Bell said: This is my biggest fear. Pettersson on most nights is the only fun thing going on in a canuck game and if they were to some how manage to drive him out of town would be tragic. They must find to a way to build a winning team around him and keep the young man happy. Petey is a super smart player, and certainly knows our team needs fixing. As long as there is clear direction to fix the mess Petey will extend. Oh, and 12 x 8 will help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 I like that they said they're looking for players, not lottery tickets and they have no desire to tear down. Build around Petey Bo Mik Kuz Lazar Hogz Podz Joshua Aman OEL Bear Demko 1 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocanuck Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I would love the nucks to re build,, it will take some time to rid themselves of bad contracts but managements basic problem is paying veterans ( market value - always debatable ) without the right core for success. Windows are so small ( two - three years ) and the hard part is to trade veteran good players when their value is high to continue to try to get right mix of draft picks and young players.. nucks just give vets a big contract and hope. All this does is make team basically spend to the cap all the time with no depth for real success. Management has to learn to let go of vets if there is no chance for a cup with that mix. Keep salaries lower until mix is right then spend to win. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, cocanuck said: I would love the nucks to re build,, it will take some time to rid themselves of bad contracts but managements basic problem is paying veterans ( market value - always debatable ) without the right core for success. Windows are so small ( two - three years ) and the hard part is to trade veteran good players when their value is high to continue to try to get right mix of draft picks and young players.. nucks just give vets a big contract and hope. All this does is make team basically spend to the cap all the time with no depth for real success. Management has to learn to let go of vets if there is no chance for a cup with that mix. Keep salaries lower until mix is right then spend to win. They're not rebuilding, they're re-tooling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) I have been heavily critical of new management because they seem to be walking down the Benning path. ‘They have done a nice job with picking up some prospects for free with Kuz and Aman and when they sign Livingston that will re-enforce this. Their trades have been up and down. Stillman is terrible but that deal had to be made for cap reasons because of the lack of vision and clarity in the off-season. I think the Bear and Hamonic trades were really good GM work. Didn’t like the Dermott or Studnicka deals because they signal the wrong direction. ‘What I don’t like is they seem to think rebuild not necessary even if selling everyone. They are looking for hockey deals when dealing from position of weakness. Even the “everyone is available” is not “everyone is available for futures”. It is everyone is available and we are going to try to win without elite talent or depth. JR/PA made numerous mistakes. Signing JT and Mik without moving any money out was crippling and will be for years if they can’t move JTM. The cap looks like it isn’t going up as much as hoped which will only com-locate things. ‘We would have been in such a better place if Benning had just let the clock run out on Player Name, Beagle and Rous. He may have even been able to get an asset for Beagle. We would have had a high pick that year, a higher pic last year and a tonne of cap when it was at it’s highest value. OEL will cripple us for years and Garland is a luxury we didn’t need in a small scoring forward who can’t kill penalties. Edited December 18, 2022 by DrJockitch 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, cocanuck said: I would love the nucks to re build,, it will take some time to rid themselves of bad contracts but managements basic problem is paying veterans ( market value - always debatable ) without the right core for success. Windows are so small ( two - three years ) and the hard part is to trade veteran good players when their value is high to continue to try to get right mix of draft picks and young players.. nucks just give vets a big contract and hope. All this does is make team basically spend to the cap all the time with no depth for real success. Management has to learn to let go of vets if there is no chance for a cup with that mix. Keep salaries lower until mix is right then spend to win. This is what most fans want. But our owner refuses. Maybe he changes his view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: I have been heavily critical of new management because they seem to be walking down the Benning path. ‘They have done a nice job with picking up some prospects for free with Kuz and Aman and when they sign Livingston that will re-enforce this. Their trades have been up and down. Stillman is terrible but that deal had to be made for cap reasons because of the lack of vision and clarity in the off-season. I think the Bear and Hamonic trades were really good GM work. Didn’t like the Dermott or Studnicka deals because they signal the wrong direction. ‘What I don’t like is they seem to think rebuild not necessary even if selling everyone. They are looking for hockey deals when dealing from position of weakness. Even the everyone is available is not everyone is available for futures. It is everyone is available and we are going to try to win without elite talent or depth. JR/PA made numerous mistakes. Signing JT and Mik without moving any money out was crippling and will be for years if they can’t move JTM. The cap looks like it isn’t going up as much as hoped which will only com-locate things. ‘We would have been in such a better place if Benning had just let the clock run out on Player Name, Beagle and Rous. He may have even been able to get an asset for Beagle. We would have had a high pick that year, a higher pic last year and a tonne of cap when it was at it’s highest value. OEL will cripple us for years and Garland is a luxury we didn’t need in a small scoring forward who can’t kill penalties. Since our energy bought the club he has hamstrung management with his set direction to “win now”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted December 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: I have been heavily critical of new management because they seem to be walking down the Benning path. ‘They have done a nice job with picking up some prospects for free with Kuz and Aman and when they sign Livingston that will re-enforce this. Their trades have been up and down. Stillman is terrible but that deal had to be made for cap reasons because of the lack of vision and clarity in the off-season. I think the Bear and Hamonic trades were really good GM work. Didn’t like the Dermott or Studnicka deals because they signal the wrong direction. ‘What I don’t like is they seem to think rebuild not necessary even if selling everyone. They are looking for hockey deals when dealing from position of weakness. Even the “everyone is available” is not “everyone is available for futures”. It is everyone is available and we are going to try to win without elite talent or depth. JR/PA made numerous mistakes. Signing JT and Mik without moving any money out was crippling and will be for years if they can’t move JTM. The cap looks like it isn’t going up as much as hoped which will only com-locate things. ‘We would have been in such a better place if Benning had just let the clock run out on Player Name, Beagle and Rous. He may have even been able to get an asset for Beagle. We would have had a high pick that year, a higher pic last year and a tonne of cap when it was at it’s highest value. OEL will cripple us for years and Garland is a luxury we didn’t need in a small scoring forward who can’t kill penalties. They're not walking down the Benning path. I'm 100% sure that Benning knew that Petey was the key and would have made the moves to build around him. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 hours ago, FaninMex said: Yeah, I saw that. After Covid, I just have not had the care to watch hockey and another rebuild with a management that I think is garbage. Well, I guess that means my time here is almost at an end. I went through this as well, Covid killed my hockey passion, it's slowly coming back but my care level is still minimal. I'm also a full season ticket holder and go to most games, and i still barely care. It's an odd feeling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said: Insider Elliotte Friedaman confirmed on HNIC during the Jets game what we all suspected, that everyone on the Canucks roster is now up for grabs - except EP40 - the only untouchable one.. Even QH, although he stated that the offer would have to be astronomical. I guess this means... MILLER is available !!!!!!!!! Yes baby! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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