Popular Post aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: No reason he doesn’t interest “win now” teams - especially those with strong leadership groups. I just wouldn’t expect a huge return anymore. Yeah, I've been eye rolling the whole "immovable with his extension" narrative. There's zero chance most "win now" teams wouldn't be extremely interested in a +/- 1PPG PWF winger who can win draws/chip in at C, and is on an expiring BARGAIN deal, with a below market extension in place. Are we likely going to need to take back some cap? Yup. Are we likely going to get what we could have last TDL....maybe, maybe not. But he's FAR from immovable. The real question is, does this management group have the cajones/ability to swallow their pride to admit the error and course correct extending him? Then, can they follow that up by getting Horvat extended (or if not, hitting an absolute homerun on a return)? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Trade them both. Bedard baby. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said: Tbh, trading both is the best for our future. Yeah but also Horvat will be pretty good for the next 5 years and also I’m selfish cause he’s my fav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Feels like we are 60 games into the season with all this talk since pretty much game 5 of the year lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yeah, I've been eye rolling the whole "immovable with his extension" narrative. There's zero chance most "win now" teams wouldn't be extremely interested in a +/- 1PPG PWF winger who can win draws/chip in at C, and is on an expiring BARGAIN deal, with a below market extension in place. Are we likely going to need to take back some cap? Yup. Are we likely going to get what we could have last TDL....maybe, maybe not. But he's FAR from immovable. The real question is, does this management group have the cajones/ability to swallow their pride to admit the error and course correct extending him? Then, can they follow that up by getting Horvat extended (or if not, hitting an absolute homerun on a return)? The real question (IMHAO) is whether our owner will allow a trade of either Miller or Bo. Unless management can show there is a clear plan to make the club better now with a trade I can’t see our owner allowing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 No quick fixes when your options are this limited. We've handicapped ourselves hard. Best to reset. Clear cap, gain picks/prospects, create more flexibility and options to improve the team. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yeah, I've been eye rolling the whole "immovable with his extension" narrative. There's zero chance most "win now" teams wouldn't be extremely interested in a +/- 1PPG PWF winger who can win draws/chip in at C, and is on an expiring BARGAIN deal, with a below market extension in place. Are we likely going to need to take back some cap? Yup. Are we likely going to get what we could have last TDL....maybe, maybe not. But he's FAR from immovable. The real question is, does this management group have the cajones/ability to swallow their pride to admit the error and course correct extending him? Then, can they follow that up by getting Horvat extended (or if not, hitting an absolute homerun on a return)? Hope and pray that management would make the move. Trading him say to Jersey (get Sharangovich, who's scored as a top-6 forward before and can play any position, but is "struggling" at 0.5 points/ game and has been inconsistent [often plays 3rd/ 4th line], Severson [expiring but top-4 RHD who's only 28] and hopefully a pick on top) or the Rangers (Goodrow would be a great starting point, hopefully as defensive 3rd C, + Robertson or pick) or even Detroit would be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Move out Bo. Then move out Miller. Not really sure how the Rags and Devils are interested in Miller now…hope this is true reporting but doesn’t really feel like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Completely agree. My ideal situation would be Miller for any of those combos including a 1st, then Boeser for Dumba. Why would we make a trade for an overpaid defenceman who can't play defence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Hope and pray that management would make the move. Trading him say to Jersey (get Sharangovich, who's scored as a top-6 forward before and can play any position, but is "struggling" at 0.5 points/ game and has been inconsistent [often plays 3rd/ 4th line], Severson [expiring but top-4 RHD who's only 28] and hopefully a pick on top) or the Rangers (Goodrow would be a great starting point, hopefully as defensive 3rd C, + Robertson or pick) or even Detroit would be great. Yeah I'm doubtful...but I've been praying they see the light and fix the error since his extension was announced. But literally nothing they've done/said indicates they plan to move him. (PLEASE BE A SMOKE SCREEN!) I'll have literally every appendage crossed for the 2 months leading up to the TDL...but I expect to feel like Ralph Wiggum when Lisa broke his heart when Miller's still here in April. And I'd love Sharangovich + FWIW. Edited January 8, 2023 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Trade them both. Bedard baby. I like the cut of your jib. Get this feller a corner office with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: Lol that's the face of fans on CDC all season, get used to it man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Why would we make a trade for an overpaid defenceman who can't play defence? I think Dumbo is an expiring contract. The idea would be we clear all Brock’s contract after this season because we would let Dumba walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yeah, I've been eye rolling the whole "immovable with his extension" narrative. There's zero chance most "win now" teams wouldn't be extremely interested in a +/- 1PPG PWF winger who can win draws/chip in at C, and is on an expiring BARGAIN deal, with a below market extension in place. Are we likely going to need to take back some cap? Yup. Are we likely going to get what we could have last TDL....maybe, maybe not. But he's FAR from immovable. The real question is, does this management group have the cajones/ability to swallow their pride to admit the error and course correct extending him? Then, can they follow that up by getting Horvat extended (or if not, hitting an absolute homerun on a return)? Well, Miller’s recent headlines won’t hurt, plus JR can’t give too many f’s about perception at this stage in his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Phil_314 said: Lol that's the face of fans on CDC all season, get used to it man I'd like to "get used to" smart management decisions that aim to focus on making the best and deepest team for Pettersson and Hughes peaks in 2+ years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Just looked at Carolina's player contracts on Cap friendly...........they will loose a lot of players after this year............ If they want to take one final run..this is it, until their prospects mature............... Horvat is a real target for them.........IMHO Carolina has 7 UFA's over the age of 30...........that is 7 Edited January 8, 2023 by J.I.A.H.N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'd like to "get used to" smart management decisions that aim to focus on making the best and deepest team for Pettersson and Hughes peaks in 2+ years. @aGENT for a GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Phil_314 said: @aGENT for a GM? I sure wish I was last summer anyway... We'd have moved Miller and used the cap space and Rathbone to add Marino at a minimum. Likely could have extended Horvat for closer to $7m at that point as well. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 At this point last year I was saying "Only trade him if someone overpays. Don't sell him for scraps!". Now I just hope they can get rid of him without any retention. What a difference a year makes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, combover said: https://www.canucksdaily.com/Trade-chatter-on-Miller-picking-up-and-4-teams-have-shown-interest-194946 At this point, 4 teams have raised their hands regarding their interest in the former 99 points scorer. pits nyr njd det One can only hope this has some level of truth. doesn’t give much detail . https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2023/01/canucks-jt-miller-linked-to-several.html?fbclid=IwAR3U-dWUPPy3BCd9IrAuDsmOj8K-oCDT7HWdl7PWUO4WBz0NoDEWhGlRRcU&m=1 reads and sounds like bs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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