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[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Winnipeg Jets | Jan. 08, 2023

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43 minutes ago, OldFaithfulCap said:

Other teams, especially the US teams aren't the dominant teams in their market. If they suck for a few years it won't matter vs them being so so. They need to be championship quality to get the locals excited. Canadian teams are always under the microscope. Its another bs side effect of teams in dumb places. Carolina gives no crap about the canes until the playoffs

That's very true regarding USA vs Canada. Maybe it's time to be more ruthless here because they also understand that refocusing a companies spending and product line isn't even really  "tanking", as some people call it. It's just smart. Just because a business goes through a downswing doesn't mean they have to take it on the chin and go down with the ship. They can sell off their product, re-align margins, and push forward the best they can on a thin product line until they re-actualize the product and target market.

 

Bottom line ... teams are allowed to trade players now to better their future later, but we don't seem to get that. The fans here seem to think it's cheating or giving up when in fact it's just business, like a temporary downscaling. You shouldn't be expected to just bleed money until you foreclose.

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58 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

It’s embarrassing how much better the Kraken are than us. They entered the league last year and we’ve been trying to build a team for a decade :picard: pain.

Vegas has been a contender since they joined. I don't think it's really all that crazy Seattle is doing well.

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8 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said:

We can agree to disagree, on this one topic.  Imo, the player and the FO (shill), are nor the same person and Francesco should be their cause he is the decision maker vs Smyl.  

Why don't you rewrite your post so we can all understand it

 

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1 hour ago, Curmudgeon said:

Don't know what you think you read but the original poster characterized this team as a Benning production. I then pointed out that Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Studnicka, Joshua, Lazar, Bear, Dermott and Delia were not Benning acquisitions, and the team still sucks. So I don't see how you concluded that I was defending Benning. Responsibility for the sorry state of this team is shared by many, not JUST Benning and Green. That's all. No more, no less.

New guys also re-signed Brock

And Miller's money needs to be found for  the next 7 years.

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On 1/8/2023 at 3:49 PM, MrCanuck94 said:

I think something that is missed among fans is accrued cap space, the closer we get to the deadline, the less actual cap hit for the season teams have to take on for this year, which will make it easier to trade our players in a cap crunched league.

Good for them, but bad for us.....the Canucks have a long history of losing a player to injury in the month before the trade deadline......risking a total loss at the end of the season.

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2 hours ago, Shayster007 said:

Vegas has been a contender since they joined. I don't think it's really all that crazy Seattle is doing well.

They were but they had a much better entry draft than Seattle. Seattle is good because they made good acquisitions and their management built a good team. Canucks haven’t had a good team in over a decade. 

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59 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

With a Flyers win we moved from 25th to 26th and increased our odds by 0.5% if the draft lottery were today!

 

Keep that tank rollin’!

 

 

San Jose and Arizona play each other tomorrow as well. Guaranteed 2 points from one of them, hopefully a 3 point night though.

 

Recently a lot of bottom teams playing each other, hopefully it stays that way. Bottom 3 is a real potential if this road trip goes as expected.

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10 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

They were but they had a much better entry draft than Seattle. Seattle is good because they made good acquisitions and their management built a good team. Canucks haven’t had a good team in over a decade. 

Seattle went a different direction, but it ended up being a good draft. They prioritized cap over anything else. It allowed them to get players like Bjorkstrand at dimes on the dollar. 

 

An NHL team is a massive investment, the teams are set up to succeed now. We have had decades to make terrible decisions. A lot of bad choices in the last 6-8 years.

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3 hours ago, Petey40 said:

It’s embarrassing how much better the Kraken are than us. They entered the league last year and we’ve been trying to build a team for a decade :picard: pain.

Seattle got too good too fast.  They should have tanked for one more year.  Instead of Wright, they should have drafted Jiricek.  Then tanked hard for Bedard or even Fantilli or Carlsson.  They would have been set for the next decade...

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2 hours ago, aqua59 said:

Why don't you rewrite your post so we can all understand it

 

You know what I mean and your sarcastic response, rather than sticking with a hockey response, says a lot about you.  Got triggered, about your "hero" - lol

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2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Seattle got too good too fast.  They should have tanked for one more year.  Instead of Wright, they should have drafted Jiricek.  Then tanked hard for Bedard or even Fantilli or Carlsson.  They would have been set for the next decade...

Habs should have drafted any one of 20-50 guys instead of the bustaroo bonsai Lafkoski.  

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1 hour ago, Pure961089 said:

Say what you will about this Canucks roster but for the first time in many years the Canucks are slow cooking our young kids.  They’re doing it right, finally.  I love the fact Hoglander, Aman, Linus, Klim and Podz are all marinating, getting their confidence up and winning in ABB.  Klim and Podz are showing chemistry as well as Hogz, Aman and Karlsson aka the IKEA line are also doing well.  Other than Petey and Bo this is the only bright spot the Canucks have going this season.  They’re finally developing our young players the right way. 

Top teams do well in all dimensions  of running the team not just the aspect you  mentioned .
 

it’s been the Story of the last decade here regardless of who’s been in charge. Do one thing well and shit the bed in all other areas. 
 

that’s what leads to the cycle of mediocrity we poor fans have had to endure. 

 

That includes drafting, developing, pro scouting, trades, cap management etc.  

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31 minutes ago, J-23 said:

San Jose and Arizona play each other tomorrow as well. Guaranteed 2 points from one of them, hopefully a 3 point night though.

 

Recently a lot of bottom teams playing each other, hopefully it stays that way. Bottom 3 is a real potential if this road trip goes as expected.

The big question is: if they lose every game in January, do we get an NBA team back?

 

Eh Frank? Franky-baby..

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9 minutes ago, luckylager said:

The big question is: if they lose every game in January, do we get an NBA team back?

 

Eh Frank? Franky-baby..

To win in the NBA you have to pay big money.

 

Warriors are about to pay 400 million to keep one of the best modern sports dynasties going.

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Seattle got too good too fast.  They should have tanked for one more year.  Instead of Wright, they should have drafted Jiricek.  Then tanked hard for Bedard or even Fantilli or Carlsson.  They would have been set for the next decade...

Yeah it’s kind of nice when you put it that way. How long will it last? It’s not like it’s a super young team either and imagine if they trade Wright for a playoff run

 

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