JAVA-1 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Garland to the Penguins for Ty Smith and Kapanen. We gain about a mil in cap space and D-man in Smith (starts as 3rd pairing and could work up in future). Thoughts?? This would be my first trade as the GM and more to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I would do this deal. At least Kapanen knows how to play defence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, JAVA-1 said: Garland to the Penguins for Ty Smith and Kapanen. We gain about a mil in cap space and D-man in Smith (starts as 3rd pairing and could work up in future). Thoughts?? This would be my first trade as the GM and more to follow. I think you need to add to get both Smith and Kapanen in this deal. Smith is a former first round pick and has some pretty solid upside potential. Not to diminish Garland's value, but a D who can play either side is more valuable to teams right now than a middle 6 forward. If we got Smith straight up for Garland, I'd be pretty happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: I think you need to add to get both Smith and Kapanen in this deal. Smith is a former first round pick and has some pretty solid upside potential. Not to diminish Garland's value, but a D who can play either side is more valuable to teams right now than a middle 6 forward. If we got Smith straight up for Garland, I'd be pretty happy. I would give them Dermott in the deal as well. For their playoff run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Green Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I would do this deal , Garland was skating hard and more noticable in that Pitt. game than he has been in awhile. Maybe the eastern roadtrip is showcase time for a few players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Kapanen is a UFA after next year so worse case scenario if he doesn't pan out we ultimately end up freeing up all of Garland's contract in the summer of 2024... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVA-1 Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 To fit cap wise Pitt has to give contract back and Kapanen has been not performed like one 1st rounder, that is why I chose him to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I would give them Dermott in the deal as well. For their playoff run... My biggest question is, what does Garland get them that Kapanen doesn't already provide? Both are currently producing at a .5 points per game rate, with Kapanen doing it for more than 1.5 million less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: My biggest question is, what does Garland get them that Kapanen doesn't already provide? Both are currently producing at a .5 points per game rate, with Kapanen doing it for more than 1.5 million less. Garland has some term left. Kapanen will be gone after next year so at least they get an asset back with term... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVA-1 Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: My biggest question is, what does Garland get them that Kapanen doesn't already provide? Both are currently producing at a .5 points per game rate, with Kapanen doing it for more than 1.5 million less. If Garland plays top 6, which he should, then I think he will produce at a better rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, JAVA-1 said: If Garland plays top 6, which he should, then I think he will produce at a better rate. I think he would as well, but I don't think there's anyone in the current lineup that he would displace on a regular basis. I actually like his game, but I think he will continue to struggle to get placement into top 6 as long as Kuzmenko is here as well. He's kind of been displaced from that role and we would probably be doing him a favor moving him to another team who needs another top 6 guy. His contract is actually pretty reasonable, based on what he proved he could produce at last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 If I'm Vancouver I'd ask for Jan Rutta - 3 years left, $2.75 mil per, Stanley Cup pedigree; when Petry and Letang come back there's little to no chance that he's not back on the 3rd pairing (his minutes shot up to 22 mins last game, before their injury he was around 16) and something to balance the cap. If they want to add scoring punch in Garland, I'd rather get something more than a fast skater who's inconsistent in Kapanen (Smith looks promising). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 We'd probably need to add Schenn or Dermott but I'd do it. Think they really want Boeser and Ty is playing top 4 minutes already for them, plus they traded Marino for him so doubt they move him. POJ on the other hand just falls off the depth chart, bet we could nab him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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