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Bo Horvat has been the face of this team since the Sedins left.

 

He has been a consistent producer for the team who has shown year to year improvements.

 

He is the team's best multi-tasker... he can be a dominant faceoff man, score goals, be physical and be a checking forward.

 

He deserves respect... he has not complained or made a public issue although he has probably been under-paid for most of his stay in Vancouver.

 

He has been a competent and honourable Captain of the team... not the best by any standard... but he has shouldered the responsibility and put the effort in.

 

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At the same time, it has to be said.... he is not Star player... he does not drive the team's offense, he is a triggerman... not a playmaker.

 

He also sometimes has problems in the shut down role... especially when he is facing high level opposition.

 

And while his scoring performance this season deserves every acknowledgement... the goal totals he is putting up to this point are inconsistent with what he has shown in previous years... can we expect him to continue to score at this rate for the rest of this year or even the rest of his best years or is this 1/2 season an outlier statistically?

 

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Whatever the situation at the end of the season, a way should be found for Bo Horvat to stay in Vancouver.

 

I believe the fans want him to stay, and I believe Bo wants to stay.  I think he likes Vancouver, the fans like him, and they want to see him hoist the Cup as Captain.

 

Sure he would find a home on another team if he went up on the block... but would he be that team's Captain?  Never know, but unlikely.  And would he be as happy?  I wonder.

 

And what would Vancouver get in return?  I am not sure we would see the best of any deal... I suspect Bo would be the best player in any deal, and as anyone who watches the NHL knows, 'Best Player Wins the Deal'... is more often right than not.

 

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What I am saying in this post is that Management, Bo, and his Agent need to find a way to keep him in Vancouver.

 

If Management has been watching these boards, (see my  recent poll) they can see there are many other Canuck players who the fans would prefer to let go instead of Bo.

 

So...          BOTH SIDES...  GET IT DONE.

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honestly I think Bo is done with VAN.  Like Kesler he is in the prime of his career and has experienced nothing but losing and sub par management of this team.  he is a quality person but he has definitely put his time in here and like a lot of athletes sometimes you need a change of scenery.  

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There is little motivation for him to stay, any goodwill created with the management change and hope for improvement has been pretty soundly dashed.

 

They prioritized Miller over him and lowballed him in offers.  He has had nothing but losing here his entire career.  
 

The light at the end is the tunnel is his pending UFA status and the ability to sign with a good team somewhere that values him.

 

I can definitely see him re-signing with a team that trades for him and hearing the quote “they really showed they wanted be badly and believed in me, so I am happy to sign a max term deal and have me and my family spend the rest of my career here.”

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No way does Bo stay here. He is going to want a big payday and going to a winner as his career has been wasted with nothing but losing.

 

This franchise has to move on.  Even if only to change the culture and face of the franchise, Bo may not be solely to blame for the losing but I think the Canucks are better off trying someone new as captain since it hasn't worked since he came here. If it was me, I got with 3-4 As for a year or two and see who has what it takes to be captain. 

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Bo is my favourite player and come playoff time I feel like he's one of those players that can carry a team on his back. 

He showed in the bubble playoffs, did well in the playoffs against Calgary and showed his big game ability since junior.

 

The problem is this team never makes the playoffs lmao. 

Bo was that guy, our heralded future captain when drafted, the start of our new generation of actual legit draft picks that would become elite players, the guy we got for prime Schneider....

 

It's a disgrace that he played for such a loser team with a moron for an owner in which if he started a proper rebuild when Gillis suggested it, then Linden years later, he might've been leading a contending team.  

 

So continues the story of this franchise. 

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7 minutes ago, Phil_314 said:

I hope they trade him how the Panthers traded Huberdeau (pending UFA) to hopefully get a disgruntled but talented RFA.

lol there's no talented RFA that wants to come to Vancouver like MT wanted to go to florida.. and huberdeau had a year left unlike bo who is a pure rental

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I think letting Bo get away will royally bite us. Bo seems loyal and I ultimately believe we will keep him but we definitely have to make some moves to get to that point. Bo might be wise to try for a short term deal 1-2 years and tell the team they have that time frame to get this team into a contender role or he walks, rather than sign 8 years and head into another 5 year rebuild. On the other hand Bo is having a career year and needs to be sure he gets his money. 

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We have enough forwards.
 

I’m thinking anyone not on a contract beyond this season should be shipped out by this TDL; Bo, Kuz and Schenn. Use that Cap for a proper Grade A defender for next season and get some good futures.
 

Let’s not forget we have kids in the minors that are also forwards; Podz  Hogs, etc. 

 

Hopefully we get a good prospect in the upcoming draft and good returns on those trades. 


Follow this up with a completely new coaching staff and 2023/2024 will be a playoff year.

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7 minutes ago, grandmaster said:

We have enough forwards.
 

I’m thinking anyone not on a contract beyond this season should be shipped out by this TDL; Bo, Kuz and Schenn. Use that Cap for a proper Grade A defender for next season and get some good futures.
 

Let’s not forget we have kids in the minors that are also forwards; Podz  Hogs, etc. 

 

Hopefully we get a good prospect in the upcoming draft and good returns on those trades. 


Follow this up with a completely new coaching staff and 2023/2024 will be a playoff year.

lol you expect losing 35% of your total team goals replaced by 3 goals between podz and hogs and this team is a playoff team in 23/24? ship everyone out and start a proper rebuild ffs

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1 hour ago, grandmaster said:

We have enough forwards.
 

I’m thinking anyone not on a contract beyond this season should be shipped out by this TDL; Bo, Kuz and Schenn. Use that Cap for a proper Grade A defender for next season and get some good futures.
 

Let’s not forget we have kids in the minors that are also forwards; Podz  Hogs, etc. 

 

Hopefully we get a good prospect in the upcoming draft and good returns on those trades. 


Follow this up with a completely new coaching staff and 2023/2024 will be a playoff year.

We have enough wingers. We need more pure centres. 

And a vast upgrade to our defence. 

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there won't be a compromise Bo is good as gone. the narrative from the fans are Bo shouldn't be paid for his production because he's not a play driver and he's not a star.. it doesn't matter if he scores 60 goals he can never be a star player and he's not good defensively either. if this team was good? maybe bo would take a landeskog type discount.. this team is trash from owners to management all the way down.. with no accountability and leadership from up top.. what have JR and PA done so far since getting to vancouver?? Nothing other than once in a while rip the coach or players. they say the team is not good enough doesn't have superstars etc etc so that should mean a rebuild right? nope goes and sign Miller and allocate all the UFA signings to forwards in the summer.. makes no move with the defence... and the management group have pretty much disappeared since the start of the season.

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I hate to burst your balloon but he'll be gone in 49 days - or less.   The countdown has begun.  I strongly suspect that JR/PA have already decided that new leadership is required in the locker room to try and end the Infamous "Canucks Coutry Club' Image.  Enjoy his play over the next few weeks and we'll all wish him the very best.....

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20 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

there won't be a compromise Bo is good as gone. the narrative from the fans are Bo shouldn't be paid for his production because he's not a play driver and he's not a star.. it doesn't matter if he scores 60 goals he can never be a star player and he's not good defensively either. if this team was good? maybe bo would take a landeskog type discount.. this team is trash from owners to management all the way down.. with no accountability and leadership from up top.. what have JR and PA done so far since getting to vancouver?? Nothing other than once in a while rip the coach or players. they say the team is not good enough doesn't have superstars etc etc so that should mean a rebuild right? nope goes and sign Miller and allocate all the UFA signings to forwards in the summer.. makes no move with the defence... and the management group have pretty much disappeared since the start of the season.

 You've summed up Bo's situation and the whole state of the franchise up so well in one paragraph.   Not much more needs to be added to that!

 

You're well tuned-in and Well-done -  "Right on The Money" !

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