Odd. Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Good for him to sticking to his beliefs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Gurn said: That is my biggest issue with his 'religious' beliefs.-or any other person's religious beliefs for that matter. they seem very selective to me. does the guy play hockey everyday of the week- so no day of rest? does he wear mixed fabric? Does he attend church? does he believe stoning people to death is ok? religious texts and teachings are full of stuff one should and should not do. how is he doing on all the other stuff? or does he just have a problem with gay people? It’s not about hating gays or anything like that. Many religions such as Orthodox Christians and Islam prohibit followers to idolize or symbolize anything that has not to do with their religion/God. I am Bosnian Canadian and so majority of us are either Muslim or Orthodox Cristians church members. Most people will refuse to wear anything that doesn’t represent themselves. If I’m not gay, why would I need to wear an LGBT flag? It’s not about hating them, I respect each and every human being and they’re allowed to do whatever the person pleases, don’t shove down your principles and the same will be reciprocated. Also, people can choose to have selective belief systems, this is why everyone is different. Edited January 18 by Odd. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junkyard Dog Posted January 18 Popular Post Share Posted January 18 This story is a nothing burger. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, Odd. said: It’s not about hating gays or anything like that. Many religions such as Orthodox Christians and Islam prohibit followers to idolize or symbolize anything that has not to do with their religion/God. I am Bosnian Canadian and so majority of us are either Muslim or Orthodox Cristians church members. Most people will refuse to wear anything that doesn’t represent themselves. If I’m not gay, why would I need to wear an LGBT flag? It’s not about hating them, I respect each and every human being and they’re allowed to do whatever the person pleases, don’t shove down your principles and the same will be reciprocated. Also, people can choose to have selective belief systems, this is why everyone is different. so selective religion: 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Master Mind Posted January 18 Popular Post Share Posted January 18 (edited) This is what our society has become Edited January 18 by Master Mind 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, Gurn said: so selective religion: If I’m a liberal but I have 1 viewpoint that is conservative, am I now a selective conservative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I don't like how people can hide their bigotry in the name of religion, but that's the society we live in. He's obviously anti-gay, and we are all free to judge him for that. As far as I'm concerned, any religion that excludes people because of their sexual orientation is just backwards and dumb. I've never understood why God is so concerned with what people do in private while they are naked! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) The thread title is inflammatory. The Flyers did not enable an anti-gay demonstration. They enabled his right to practice his religious beliefs. Which you're supposed to do in a country with religious freedom. Do I agree with him, no. Would I have worn the jersey, yeah I would have. But that's because I have the right to choose just as he does, just as all of us do. Edited January 18 by nuckin_futz 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, Odd. said: It’s not about hating gays or anything like that. Many religions such as Orthodox Christians and Islam prohibit followers to idolize or symbolize anything that has not to do with their religion/God. I am Bosnian Canadian and so majority of us are either Muslim or Orthodox Cristians church members. Most people will refuse to wear anything that doesn’t represent themselves. If I’m not gay, why would I need to wear an LGBT flag? It’s not about hating them, I respect each and every human being and they’re allowed to do whatever the person pleases, don’t shove down your principles and the same will be reciprocated. Also, people can choose to have selective belief systems, this is why everyone is different. What if he decided he doesn't want to support cancer patients and skips the hockey fights cancer night pre-game skate in the pink jersey. Don't you think he'd rightfully deserve criticism for that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I don't care that he didn't want to wear the jersey, but I'm a bit confused as to why he couldn't partake in warmup with a regular jersey on? I feel like that would have made either less waves, or been a more coherent form of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaös Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORTS AND OFF HERE PLZ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaös Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Strawbone said: What if he decided he doesn't want to support cancer patients and skips the hockey fights cancer night pre-game skate in the pink jersey. Don't you think he'd rightfully deserve criticism for that? That dose not go against his religious beliefs. Nice try tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 25 minutes ago, Odd. said: Good for him to sticking to his beliefs. What’s so good about it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted January 18 Popular Post Share Posted January 18 Pretty much just further illustrates how religion is the biggest scam in human existence. 3 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharpshooter Posted January 18 Popular Post Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, Kaös said: KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORTS AND OFF HERE PLZ. Go to another thread PLZ. 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, Odd. said: If I’m a liberal but I have 1 viewpoint that is conservative, am I now a selective conservative? Political belief is somewhat different than religious belief, is it not? Iirc there are multiple edicts in religion saying "Do this or burn in hell' while politics is more " don't like this our way- join the other guys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Seems like a matter to be decided between him, his coach, and the team. If they are okay with it, then why is this even a story? Like everyone is saying, he's not coming out and speaking against the LBGTQ community. I'd be more concerned with the fact that he refused to warm up with his team, regardless of what colour his jersey is, but since his coach and team are okay with it then there's no reason why anyone else should be bothered. Overblown story designed to elicit an overblown response, as is the norm these days. This has to stop. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said: What’s so good about it? Speaking as a visible minority. I much prefer the racism I can see vs the racism I can't. He'd be a fraud if the put the jersey on and participated in the skate if he didn't believe in the cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted January 18 Popular Post Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: The thread title is inflammatory. The Flyers did not enable an anti-gay demonstration. They enabled his right to practice his religious beliefs. Which you're supposed to do in a country with religious freedom. Except it’s not a religious thing it’s a societal thing. There are many different versions of the Catholic Church. Some accept gay people and some are intolerant and hateful towards them. In Russia they are of the second kind. It’s no different than criticizing an Islamic person from a country that jails and kills women for wanting equal rights. People are standing up for human rights, which him and his church is obviously against. And before anyone says that’s extreme he’s not killing anyone, gay people are being jailed and killed in Russia in the name of religion. People should be criticizing anyone who doesn’t speak out against that. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Strawbone Posted January 18 Popular Post Share Posted January 18 Just now, Kaös said: That dose not go against his religious beliefs. Nice try tho But both are discriminating against people for something out of their control. Why is it OK to discriminate against one group but not another? Why not support all groups of people, regardless of whether it's illness or long-standing historical discrimination? Religion is just a coward's way of not admitting that you are bigoted. I'm guessing he thinks being gay is a choice, and the wrong one, and it grosses him out. I've learned long ago that religious beliefs like that can't be argued, which is really unfortunate, so all we can do is hope that slowly over time more generations of people will outgrow these primitive old belief systems, borne of a time when humans understood much less than we do now. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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