[Report] Canucks fire Bruce Boudreau, Trent Cull; name Rick Tocchet as head coach, Adam Foote as assistant coach, Sergei Gonchar as defensive development coach

[rekker]

17 minutes ago, John.Tallhouse said:

Honestly, why would we not just ride out the year with Bruce? We’re losing so well right now. Even if we don’t get Bedard, surely we’ll get some nice pieces to build with. Can’t wait to go on a 15 win streak and end up 5 points out of a playoff spot 

100 percent agree.

[Timråfan]

6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Why?  Is he one of those Covid denying, horsey paste eaters or something?  

He maybe laughed a lot when Benning got OEL and Garland. 

[Bure2Win]

How in the heck does King still have his job???????

[jyu]

7 minutes ago, 204CanucksFan said:

I'm going to go against the grain here on CDC and look at these hires in a positive light. Too much negativity on here and around this team lately.

 

First, Tocchet is a terrible human and coach. What he has done very consistently over his career as a head coach though is reward whatever franchise hires him with consistently high draft picks.

 

Second, Foote has a very limited and mediocre track record as a head coach and the only reason he seems to of done it is so he could coach his son in the WHL, and who among us wouldn't take that opportunity if it presented itself. He does seem to have a decent record as a development coach for the Avs, which will hopefully work out well with all the young talent we get from the high picks Tocchet gets for us.

 

Third, Gonchar was a defensive coach for the Pens when they won back to back Stanley Cups in 2016 and 2017. That includes when he managed to win with a playoff defensive group consisting of Schultz, Cole, Daley, Dulomin, Maatta and Hainsey. So maybe he can actually teach a few of our defensemen and, maybe a even some forwards, to play proper defense. I mean, someone has to.

Good post man. 
 

you helped make me feel more optimistic. 
 

i especially like the part about tocchet and high draft picks but also the Gonchar part. Didn’t know gonchar coached the defense during their cup years. 

[Zerofaith]

2 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Then blame media because no one in the org straight up said we intend to fire Bruce at some point this season, Buuuuut, we really want to drag it out first. That’s horseshit. Fans are upset because the media preyed on this for so long that it hit driven into peoples heads that Bruce was being hard done by. The only truth to that perspective is that mgmt didn’t provide him enough tools. While that may be true, if you drive a vehicle that is finally proving its falling apart this year and about to be recycled,  you don’t go and rebuild the engine hoping that’s the problem solver.

 

This roster was reinvested into this offseason. Not in the areas folks had hoped for including myself, but money was spent to try and give Bruce some more advantage and options. But it’s a case of futility, and now we’re seeing the result of that.

Like I’ve said previously, this management has again chosen to ignore the real issues and double down on their false conviction that this collection of players they call a team is better than we’ve seen perform. 
 

sadly this team is NOT good enough. They’ve once again ignored the real issues. 
 

f**k this management that they take fans to be so stupid

[Maginator]

1 minute ago, Fanuck said:

Biggest take away  -  who gives their phone number to a basement blogger?

Dhaliwal has his own show? 

 

If anything he's one of the more reputable media members who covers the Canucks.

 

[bramptoncanuck]

58 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Gonchar and Foote good.  Tocchet bad 

 

They couldn't have just hired Gonchar and Foote for Boudreau?  Half of our entire defensive issues are due to them not retaining Shaw and Walker and replacing them with Dumb and Dumber thus ensuring our special teams and defensive game suffered.

 

The worst thing is, Tocchet is a known hard a$$ and may very well get that coaching bump that pushes us out of lottery contention.  Giving us another meh pick which we'll use to draft another small winger.

 

He'll work the players hard and demand accountability.  But this will also wear them down fast.  Most likely resulting in injuries.  Canuck Luck dictates those injuries will be to Horvat and Schenn possibly Kuzmenko who will then be ineligible for trades and will walk for nothing in the off season because we've no cap space to sign them.

 

Think this is far fetched?  It's literally happened twice already in the last 8 years.

 

The way this management group has treated future HoF coach Boudreau and us fans is honestly beyond disrespectful.  For all the grief we gave Benning, he at least treated people with respect and handled things with some level of dignity.

 

Like Foote.  Like Gonchar.  Hate this coaching change, the way it was handled and what it may result in.

I think Walker and Shaw left on their own accord.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

5 minutes ago, Barnstorm said:

I know squat about twitter. 
Any thoughts on why his account is suddenly deleted? 
Content?

New start?

I'm guessing Tocchet had some embarrassing stuff on his Twitter account, which made sense to delete it entirely.

 

But we've seen other staff members delete their previous tweets before, which is common when someone is hired by an NHL team and they have a Twitter account. For example: Ryan Biech, Rachel Doerrie, Chris Faber.

[PhillipBlunt]

11 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Can we not do this please? 

Go down the Twitter rabbit hole?

[Attila Umbrus]

1 minute ago, stawns said:

True enough, they do.

 

I'm very much enjoying and, though I'd rather not pay to watch hockey, it's a much needed spirit lifter and I still get to support my team.

 

If they weren't playing well, I wouldn't have done it, but watching podz and hogz gaining confidence and becoming difference makers is worth it.........not to mention the other prospects as well.

 

I think all those who said the prospect cupboard is bare should sign up.

For sure, well said. There is a lot to like on our farm right now. I've been watching AHL hockey since the manitoba moose days...now that was hard to find on TV back then lol. Utica was fun to watch because of the crowds, they come out and completely supported the team. To be honest most years our AHL club has always performed above 500 and barely ever misses the playoffs. A lot of early exits, but some good ones exist too. Cory Schnieder taking us all the way to the Calder cup finals with the Moose, same with Markstrom in Utica...that was some fun hockey to watch.

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, Gurn said:

It is interesting to see the amount of folk that can 'look past' the bad stuff, as they feel the results are worth it.

Likely many of them would be fine with the team hiring coach Quenville, as all that "bad stuff' doesn't matter to them as much as wining.

Probably a few psychiatric papers written on the difference of where people place ethics.

Well respectfully.  We've already hired Tallon with his issues.  Tallon who in Chicago had a hand in hiring the guy Quenneville hid SA reports for.  If we're hiring a guy who plead guilty to sports betting and was investigated for potentially match fixing games he coached (while claiming adamantly that he didn't), then really, aren't we just splitting hairs here on what is or is not acceptable?

[Ghostsof1915]

1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

I'm guessing Tocchet had some embarrassing stuff on his Twitter account, which made sense to delete it entirely.

 

But we've seen other staff members delete their previous tweets before, which is common when someone is hired by an NHL team and they have a Twitter account. For example: Ryan Biech, Rachel Doerrie, Chris Faber.

Over/Under recommendations?

[Muttley]

25 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

I put the whole Boudreau saga on Aquilini.  He never wants to make a change to an important management piece unless he has a replacement fully vetted and ready to step in.  FA reportedly flew to Vegas last week to meet with Tocchet.  He's given approval and Rutherford pulled the trigger within a week.

This is where I get a wee bit addled. As I understand it. FA brought Boudreau into the Organization. However, Jim Rutherford has also taken credit for the same. 

I've always like Adam Foote so there's that, (roll eyes), other then that; This shouldn't have happened the way it did.

 

[VancouverHabitant]

2 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

So...you weren't aware of what he posted regularly then?

 

K.

 

It's probably more apt that the team that fired the anthem singer for covid protesting told Tocchet to delete his pro convoy conspiracy laden account full of anger and hostility so as to start in Vancouver with a clean slate.

A view that differs from yours automatically is "full of anger and hostility". 

 

Gotcha 

[Nucker 67]

1 minute ago, Bure2Win said:

How in the heck does King still have his job???????

Tocchet will make that decision.

[48MPHSlapShot]

Just now, Maginator said:

Fanbase & media is so toxic we can't even give people a chance.

I'm not big on the hire myself, but going through a person's Twitter likes to try and cancel them because A] We've already made up our minds about a person and want to find something to justify ourselves, and B] we can't handle diversity of opinion here, is lame af.

[204CanucksFan]

4 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

Terrible human?  

 

Wow, what's up with judging people you have never met or interacted with? 

How about running an illegal sports gambling ring while he working as an assistant coach under Gretzky. He plead guilty and got two years probation. That was enough to get Pete Rose banned from the MLB and the Hall of Fame.

[aGENT]

24 minutes ago, VforVasili said:

Agree 100%. 
 

In some ways I am also glad Bruce left this team as a beloved legend, rather than sticking around long enough for us to fail in the playoffs in future years and become hated for it. 
 

He wasn’t exactly known for playoff success elsewhere. Better to work on a defensive systems with a new coach. Will reserve my opinions until I see what they do with the team. 

Yup. And even then I'm not remotely expecting immediate, positive results. This roster, as constructed, will continue to struggle IMO. Particularly as we won't be attempting to run and gun away our mistakes (which probably lead to more wins than we've deserved this year, uncommon as they were).

[Barnstorm]

2 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

I'm guessing Tocchet had some embarrassing stuff on his Twitter account, which made sense to delete it entirely.

 

But we've seen other staff members delete their previous tweets before, which is common when someone is hired by an NHL team and they have a Twitter account. For example: Ryan Biech, Rachel Doerrie, Chris Faber.

Appreciate your insight.

[Warhippy]

2 minutes ago, bramptoncanuck said:

I think Walker and Shaw left on their own accord.

They did.  But there was evidently little to no efforts made to retain them.